Author Topic: Parallels between the GOP Split and the Progressive Conservative/Reform Split  (Read 85 times)

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Offline Michael Hardner

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https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-gop-is-on-its-deathbed/article36481644/?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theglobeandmail.com&click=sf_globefb

This makes me wonder - did the reformed Conservative party satisfy Reformers enough ?  It's certainly still a mainstream party but I don't see divisions there anymore.  Am I wrong ?

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https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-gop-is-on-its-deathbed/article36481644/?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theglobeandmail.com&click=sf_globefb

This makes me wonder - did the reformed Conservative party satisfy Reformers enough ?  It's certainly still a mainstream party but I don't see divisions there anymore.  Am I wrong ?
The political systems are quite a bit different between Canada and the U.S.

Canada's multi-party environment, as well as its first-past-the-post voting system tend to amplify changes. (For example, in 1993 the conservatives had almost as many votes as the reform party, and more than the NDP or Bloc, but ended up with fewer seats than any of them. The effects of their drop in support were amplified when it came to their political power.)  If we had something like proportional representation, the Progressive Conservative party might still be around.

On the other hand, the U.S. is largely a 2 party system, and creating a new, viable party in that situation is more difficult.

Offline Michael Hardner

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I'm not contesting much of what you said but... isn't the situation really largely the same ?

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I'm not contesting much of what you said but... isn't the situation really largely the same ?
Similar situations, but the key differences is that Canada has a tradition of multi-party politics, whereas the U.S. is rooted in a 2 party system. Much harder to enact changes in that situation since the splitting of a party is a much more significant event

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... since the splitting of a party is a much more significant event

True enough, but parties haven't lasted forever either.  Whigs, know-nothings and others disappeared.  Candidates like Trump or Perot rise up and fall.  I can see a 3-party system emerging, with a centre-right dominant party taking the huge middle ground available.  This would be the Republocrats, basically.

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MH, I cannot say that I agree with your prediction. Americans are a conservative lot when it comes to our institutions. The two party system has been pretty stable where it is since the post Civil War era, and I do not see it changing any time soon.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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I am not saying that it will happen but that it may.