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Offline Omni

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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2019, 10:49:10 pm »
Only an idiot could read my post and come to the conclusion “this guy doesn’t care about 8 year olds looking after 2 year olds in cages”. 

But you seem to have comprehension issues a lot lately.

Maybe only an idiot would suggest that someone calling a spade a spade on such a distressing issue should be accused of feeling "all tingly inside". I think the comprehension issue isn't mine.
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2019, 07:25:07 am »
If it makes you feel all tingly inside to label them as “concentration camps”, go for it.

It makes not a lick of difference to call them that.  It’s just hyperbole.  Which makes for a weaker argument.

I'm actually ok with debating the terminology, but only as a prelude to addressing the more important point:

That children are dying in US concentration camps.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2019, 12:25:10 pm »
I'm actually ok with debating the terminology, but only as a prelude to addressing the more important point:

That children are dying in US concentration camps.

Sadly, I have to point out that Honduran children, people, in US concentration camps, are there because of Canada.

Canada supports the right-wing Honduran government that is suppressing dissent among mostly Indigenous Peoples, who oppose Canadian mining companies pushing them off their land.

70% of the mines in Honduras are Canadian owned.
The Canadian government has been asked by Canadians with relatives in Honduras to intervene, but refuses.
That silence is complicity, and Canada's complicity was a huge wakeup call to that  small rural Canadian community.


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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2019, 01:01:23 pm »
70% of the mines in Honduras are Canadian owned.
The Canadian government has been asked by Canadians with relatives in Honduras to intervene, but refuses.
That silence is complicity, and Canada's complicity was a huge wakeup call to that  small rural Canadian community.

What is the role of the Canadian government, or any government, in these cases? I think far more effective would be consumer led boycotts, etc. against the companies. That has had more impact on companies like Nike, Apple, and others than the US government ever has.

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2019, 10:12:45 am »
What is the role of the Canadian government, or any government, in these cases?
Canada supports the right-wing government of Honduras  that was installed via fraudulent elections ... because ...

As author and activist Yves Engler has highlighted, “A number of major Canadian corporations, notably Gildan and Goldcorp, were unhappy with some modest social democratic reforms implemented by [President] Zelaya.”

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I think far more effective would be consumer led boycotts, etc. against the companies. That has had more impact on companies like Nike, Apple, and others than the US government ever has.
Get back to us about how that goes ...
I think interfering with mining companies ability to raise funds in Canada is more effective.

Or maybe stop electing Canadian governments that support military regimes in other countries that push Indigenous people off their land to build Canadian mining operations.
Same story, different countries.
Canada's economic reliance on extraction industries is genocide at home and worldwide.
International Canadian mining companies have the worst record of Human Rights violations in the world.
We're experts: Canada exports genocide against Indigenous Peoples ...

long, well-established history of horrific and systemic human rights abuses at Canadian mine sites across the globe. Reports by respected organizations like Amnesty International, Mining Watch Canada, Human Rights Watch, Oxfam, the United Nations and countless others have detailed environmental and human rights abuses. Those include targeted assassinations, gang ****, violence against unarmed protesters, and the use of slave labour. Yet there are rarely any consequences for companies where they are headquartered and allowed to raise most of their money – namely, in Canada.
Successive Canadian governments have recognized there’s a problem but have responded with policies and oversight bodies that are powerless by design.


Pretty words on paper ... and the genocide carries on ... 'the Canadian way'.

Happy Canada Day. Lol
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2019, 05:21:52 pm »
If it makes you feel all tingly inside to label them as “concentration camps”, go for it.

It makes not a lick of difference to call them that.  It’s just hyperbole.  Which makes for a weaker argument.
Hyerbole? Not even close.....

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2019, 06:48:08 pm »
And what is that argument?  Basically people are demanding humane treatment.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2019, 09:47:56 pm »
What is the role of the Canadian government, or any government, in these cases? I think far more effective would be consumer led boycotts, etc. against the companies. That has had more impact on companies like Nike, Apple, and others than the US government ever has.

Depends how the companies are behaving there.  There's ie: Chinese companies with resource extraction/mining in Canada.  Honduras obviously let Canadian companies into the country, and could charge them whatever they want for access to the mines.  Is this a Canadian problem, or problem with Honduras government, or both, or not a problem at all.  All depends on the situation.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2019, 12:09:23 am »
Depends how the companies are behaving there.  There's ie: Chinese companies with resource extraction/mining in Canada.  Honduras obviously let Canadian companies into the country, and could charge them whatever they want for access to the mines.  Is this a Canadian problem, or problem with Honduras government, or both, or not a problem at all.  All depends on the situation.
In the three countries of the Triangle, at least 17 deaths have been directly linked to the corporations.

Two reports, The “Canada Brand”: Violence and Canadian Mining Companies in Latin America (by the Justice and Corporate Accountability Project of Osgoode Law School), and The Impact of Canadian Mining in Latin America and Canada’s Responsibility (by the Working Group on Mining and Human Rights in Canada) both amply document the actions of the mining companies and their responsibility in the violence.