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Offline Poonlight Graham

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Yeah I guess any old "crappy athlete" can work his way into being the starting QB for the San Fran 49ers. Maybe you are going down that road because you don't like his politics.

Did they sign him for his athleticism, or for his politics because they want to sell shoes to young black people & woke peeps?  Well now they're stuck with a guy who says ridiculous things.

Maybe Nike should put out an "Africa" Kaepernick shoe, and put the shape of the african continent stamped on the back of the heel.  Because we all know Africa is a symbol of slavery because hundreds of years ago black Africans raided rival villages, captured and enslaved their young men, and sold those slaves to white slavers who shipped them to America.

Woke justice woooo!!
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Did they sign him for his athleticism, or for his politics because they want to sell shoes to young black people & woke peeps?  Well now they're stuck with a guy who says ridiculous things.

Maybe Nike should put out an "Africa" Kaepernick shoe, and put the shape of the african continent stamped on the back of the heel.  Because we all know Africa is a symbol of slavery because hundreds of years ago black Africans raided rival villages, captured and enslaved their young men, and sold those slaves to white slavers who shipped them to America.

Woke justice woooo!!

They hired him due to a combination of his athleticism and his politics, and so far it is paying off quite well for both.

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Kaepernick may have been an appealing athlete, at one point, simply because of his ability as a football player. However his current persona is of a person who was blackballed from football for taking a political stand. 

People who say he sucked and that's why he's not in the NFL are wrong. There is ample evidence that he was/is better than dozens of QBs that are currently playing in the NFL.

And people who say he's currently being paid by Nike because he's a great QB are also wrong. He's being marketed as a political martyr.

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And people who say he's currently being paid by Nike because he's a great QB are also wrong. He's being marketed as a political martyr.
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Hence the removal of the 13 stara and stripes flag from the shoes. I'm sure the shoes are just fine.

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I understand why the shoes were pulled. I'm just saying that the logic used to justify saying it's offensive is rather questionable.

It would be like if someone said that using the term Upper Canada or Lower Canada was offensive because those terms were used at a time when First Nations were treated poorly.

Or using the Union Jack in a Canadian flag is offensive because it speaks to a time when the British Empire did condone Slavery.

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Adidas is the best shoe company there is, by a wide margin.

Adidas has a terrible track record of paying poverty wages in third world sweatshops.

Offline Omni

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I understand why the shoes were pulled. I'm just saying that the logic used to justify saying it's offensive is rather questionable.

It would be like if someone said that using the term Upper Canada or Lower Canada was offensive because those terms were used at a time when First Nations were treated poorly.

Or using the Union Jack in a Canadian flag is offensive because it speaks to a time when the British Empire did condone Slavery.

Slavery is/was offensive and all 13 colonies at the time practiced it. Hard to separate that issue from the reality. 

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Slavery is/was offensive and all 13 colonies at the time practiced it. Hard to separate that issue from the reality.

Slavery wasn't abolished in Britain until 1807 and the rest of the Empire until 1833, do we ignore British and Canadian history before those dates? Can the English and Scots no longer fly their national flags because they were used when slavery was still legal? France should also ditch the Tricolore because it was in use when slavery was still legal in France.

I'm not saying Nike shouldn't have ditched the shoe but where do you draw a line with this ****?
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Slavery wasn't abolished in Britain until 1807 and the rest of the Empire until 1833, do we ignore British and Canadian history before those dates? Can the English and Scots no longer fly their national flags because they were used when slavery was still legal? France should also ditch the Tricolore because it was in use when slavery was still legal in France.

I'm not saying Nike shouldn't have ditched the shoe but where do you draw a line with this ****?

One could argue that removing the flag from the shoe is not ignoring history but doing exactly the opposite. 

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Slavery is/was offensive and all 13 colonies at the time practiced it. Hard to separate that issue from the reality.

Africans in Africa practiced far more slavery than the USA ever did.  Africa is offensive.

Indigenous North Americans practiced slavery pre-Columbus.  Natives are offensive.

The Greeks practiced slavery.  The Olympics are offensive, ban the rings symbol.

The Bible is filled with condoning slavery.  Ban the Bible & Christianity.  Crucifix = evil slave patriarchy

Slavery was practiced just about everywhere humans ever existed until a few hundred years ago. It was bad, we get it, half a million white Americans died fighting to stop it.

In a hundred years we'll all be deemed evil and offensive. Ban us, censor everyone, shut the internet down.  Lincoln slapped his son, that abusive bastard BAN HIM!! DESTROY THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL!
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I'm not saying Nike shouldn't have ditched the shoe but where do you draw a line with this ****?

The current US flag with 50 stars was adopted in 1960.  That was before they ended Jim Crow.  The US flag must be kept off all merchandise because it's racist.
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One could argue that removing the flag from the shoe is not ignoring history but doing exactly the opposite.

Is everything prior to 1965 evil because of Jim Crow and slavery?
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"  - African proverb

Offline Omni

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Africans in Africa practiced far more slavery than the USA ever did.  Africa is offensive.

Indigenous North Americans practiced slavery pre-Columbus.  Natives are offensive.

The Greeks practiced slavery.  The Olympics are offensive, ban the rings symbol.

The Bible is filled with condoning slavery.  Ban the Bible & Christianity.  Crucifix = evil slave patriarchy

Slavery was practiced just about everywhere humans ever existed until a few hundred years ago. It was bad, we get it, half a million white Americans died fighting to stop it.

In a hundred years we'll all be deemed evil and offensive. Ban us, censor everyone, shut the internet down.  Lincoln slapped his son, that abusive bastard BAN HIM!! DESTROY THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL!

Yep, the practice of slavery is/was offensive regardless of what country it was practiced in. And yep, you could ban all religions as far as I'm concerned. It seems people are, in varying degrees, still in effect slaves to them.

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Yep, the practice of slavery is/was offensive regardless of what country it was practiced in.

Ok then, should we ban all Indigenous symbols that were created before they stopped practicing slavery?

The point is, in the past there was good and bad in all cultures.  There still is.  It's ok to be proud of your heritage even if it's flawed.  Live and learn.
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Ok then, should we ban all Indigenous symbols that were created before they stopped practicing slavery?

The point is, in the past there was good and bad in all cultures.  There still is.  It's ok to be proud of your heritage even if it's flawed.  Live and learn.

Should we ignore the fact that certain symbols have attachments to former practices such as slavery? Live and learn is of course a good concept but equally important is the concept that "those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"