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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2019, 01:17:53 pm »
I am not wrapped up enough in a junior Senator to do detailed analysis of her positions. I was just pointing out that you did not either. I try to not make juvenile generic remarks about a backbencher.

Your first two comments confirm you criticize me for the very thing you engage in.

Then you make a comment accusing me of having made juvenile remarks about a "backbencher".

Please explain what in the words below are juveline Impact:

"Beautiful and sexy yes. However with due respect, she has said some incredibly stupid and naïve things. She does represent young voters and left wing Democrats however.I hate to say this, but I think if she was not as attractive as she is no one would be paying attention to her. As much as looks should not count they sure as hell do in politics and got her elected."

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has made numerous comments on Twitter and to the media that have caused negative back-lash against her because of their inherent lack of basis.

She has not taken the time to research what she says. She shoots off at the mouth about topics she has not researched. In fact she is providing fodder to get right wing Republicans elected with her stupid comments.

The list of her stupid comments is there for anyone to find on the internet.

Impact try once when responding to me to avoid the personal remarks. You have no reason to feel the need to compensate or pose as more mature han I. Please feel free to embrace your maturity or anything else just don't point it at me.  It's no big deal. Thank you.



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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #61 on: April 26, 2019, 01:31:12 pm »
Please explain what in the words below are juveline Impact:

"Beautiful and sexy yes. However with due respect, she has said some incredibly stupid and naïve things. She does represent young voters and left wing Democrats however.I hate to say this, but I think if she was not as attractive as she is no one would be paying attention to her. As much as looks should not count they sure as hell do in politics and got her elected."

You message is 100% crystal clear: all looks, no substance. That is absolutely not fair, it does not distinguish her from 99.9% of politicians based on that simplistic assessment. Don't forget the king (Emperor, President) of stupid comments shoots off his mouth with 1000 times the number of stupid comments based on far less research. Stacked up against the political field, AOC does not stand out in that respect in the slightest.


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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2019, 04:38:31 pm »
Goals are something to aim at. The counter goals is more money for today's billionaires, and a degraded environment for future generations.

Aiming at that goal is insane, and reckless, and not even possible.  Who wouldn't want the US running on 100% renewables?  Of course that would be great, it would just bankrupt the country (in that short of period) even if the technology did exist.  The plan also isn't costed at all.  No proposals on what it will cost or how it will be paid for.  It's obvious few experts if anyone was consulted on this.

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Free college tuition and single-payer healthcare have been achieved in other countries with strong economies. Again these are investments in the country and its future, not wealth accumulation by the entitled few.

These are fine and do-able, different countries have these already.  But you can't pay for all of this together with the energy plan. Put out a plan that is actually workable & people can get behind.  JFK was a dreamer, and wanted to go to the moon, and it was actually feasible.

I like her, don't get me wrong, but she's very young and very inexperienced, she should sit and learn the ropes a bit before making grand plans to transform the entire economy.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2019, 05:54:27 pm »
the waldo posted earlier:

I guess I agree with that.  I haven't been paying attention to this phenomenon ... or the thread :)

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2019, 10:06:16 pm »
You message is 100% crystal clear: all looks, no substance. That is absolutely not fair, it does not distinguish her from 99.9% of politicians based on that simplistic assessment. Don't forget the king (Emperor, President) of stupid comments shoots off his mouth with 1000 times the number of stupid comments based on far less research. Stacked up against the political field, AOC does not stand out in that respect in the slightest.

If and when she says something intelligent, accurate or sensical I might agree with her. I judge her by what she says not how she looks. As for Donald Trump I criticize him equally as I do her. As for the double standards or unfairness you find with politics and the media if it brings you anger or sadness you might want to consider yoga, anti depressants, chocolate, knitting.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2019, 10:13:56 pm »
If and when she says something intelligent, accurate or sensical I might agree with her. I judge her by what she says not how she looks. As for Donald Trump I criticize him equally as I do her. As for the double standards or unfairness you find with politics and the media if it brings you anger or sadness you might want to consider yoga, anti depressants, chocolate, knitting.

If you actually believe AOC and Donald are equally deserving of criticism, I suggest you sit down and take up one of your preferred hobbies.

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2019, 10:40:50 pm »
Omni your response to me is illogical.  The fact Trump says stupid things that  need to be challenged does not justify  that when Cortez says stupid things she should not be challenged. 

Don't lecture me to use a double standard but thanks for reminding me what an idiot is and why we need to question them.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2019, 10:43:12 pm »
Omni your response to me is illogical.  The fact Trump says stupid things that  need to be challenged does not justify  that when Cortez says stupid things she should not be challenged. 

Don't lecture me to use a double standard but thanks for reminding me what an idiot is and why we need to question them.

Hence the reason I questioned your comment.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2019, 11:09:58 pm »
Some of AOC's suggestions may well be somewhat over zealous, such as her time frame of getting the US weaned off of fossil fuels, but at least she is looking forward to the reality of it's better to have a plan in place and work toward it rather than waiting for the inevitable. Trump wants to "reopen the coal mines. Doesn't believe in global warming even though his own government scientists are 97% agreed it is happening. And I don't think AOC so far has been caught in an average of 4 or 5 blatant lies each and every day as Trump has. Nor have I heard her openly admit to sexual harassment nor is she awaiting something like 23 charges of same as he is.

Trying to compare these two is about as ridiculous as it gets.
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2019, 02:00:33 pm »
The fact Trump says stupid things that  need to be challenged does not justify  that when Cortez says stupid things she should not be challenged. 

Yes, Trump is challenged for the stupid things he says. You however were making a generalization about Cortez, not challenging something specific she said.

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2019, 08:54:25 am »
They're not terrified of her - FOX made her a scarecrow and now she's a pop culture icon.  From what I've heard of her ideas they make sense but this is not normal politics and it feeds into the FOX outrage model.
Since when do you allow FOX to define things for you?
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #71 on: April 30, 2019, 06:49:15 pm »
Yes, Trump is challenged for the stupid things he says. You however were making a generalization about Cortez, not challenging something specific she said.

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I did challenge specific things she said. If you need  a list of all the stupid things she said go on the internet. There is no shortage of them. They are public record. Why would I repeat them?

https://freebeacon.com/blog/five-idiotic-moments-recent-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-interview/


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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2019, 07:18:27 am »
There's now a Netflix documentary on her, Knock the House Down or something.

And she's been in office for what, 4 months at most?
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2019, 07:22:15 am »
I am not wrapped up enough in a junior Senator to do detailed analysis of her positions. I was just pointing out that you did not either. I try to not make juvenile generic remarks about a backbencher.

We don't have "backbenchers" in the United States; I think you mean she's a freshman congresswoman, that's the most frequently used term. (Though I imagine the Republican congressmen have their own unique words.)
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2019, 01:11:17 pm »
I think you mean she's a freshman congresswoman

Are you sure it is not a freshwoman congressman, or fresh woman congressman?