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Offline MH

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« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2017, 09:08:27 am »
Well, what can I say.  Your complaints are broad and pervasive.  I doubt you would be any more satisfied with the situation if I tried to clarify further.

I suppose that we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

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« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2017, 10:14:41 am »
I think the issue I'm hearing often isn't about good board vs. open board though.  It's about consistency in moderation, and also style.  When you're not consistent in enforcing the rules, it does feel personal. 

I would expand on that. As someone who was there a long time, when Greg moderated, if he didn't like what you wrote he would PM you and tell you what was wrong and ask (politely) for you to change it. Over the last several years it's instead been BAM! "You wrote garbage and are suspended for a week! Question me and I'll make it two! Want three!? Just try me!"

Put that together with a lack of consistency in moderation and you have a very frustrating and irritating experience. I did not find MH any improvement on Charles, btw, except for being more polite in PMs (when he answered). I actually got suspended and got warning points a lot more after he joined the moderation team than prior to that.

They have moderated (no pun intended) this over the past some months, however. Charles, in particular, seems to have moderated (no pun intended) over the last year. At least with me.

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« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2017, 10:17:49 am »
ahhh, there it is --- classic MLW moderation on display! I respond to you and... I'm a meta-troll.

You acted like a hyper aggressive blowhard, more often than not. It is possible to discuss something without sneering at the person you're discussing it with, you know.

Offline waldo

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« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2017, 11:03:20 am »
You acted like a hyper aggressive blowhard, more often than not. It is possible to discuss something without sneering at the person you're discussing it with, you know.

still Argus? Still? You're still smartin from all the waldoWhoopins you took? Still? From my perspective, your whinySelf was always worth the price of admission! I particularly relished the opportunities you took to bask in all your right/alt-wing puffery! But I digress...

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« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2017, 11:30:56 am »
still Argus? Still? You're still smartin from all the waldoWhoopins you took? Still? From my perspective, your whinySelf was always worth the price of admission! I particularly relished the opportunities you took to bask in all your right/alt-wing puffery! But I digress...

Whatever you say, Mister Trump.

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« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2017, 03:45:41 pm »
I'll only say this once and leave it at that. MLW won't run smoothly as long as the primary moderator is a conspiracy-loving anarchist. The position doesn't suit his disposition and is the primary reason there are some many dissatisfied posters. His moderation is not up for discussion over there because Greg trusts him and likes the job he's doing, so it will not ever change. End of story. I'm quite alright with being banned.

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« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2017, 07:41:26 pm »
When my grandchildren ask me if I fought in the great Twitter wars of the late teens, I would feel a little ashamed if I said I did but only in a safe place under moderation.

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« Reply #82 on: July 26, 2017, 12:26:37 am »
For me, I don't care if a topic organically evolves from one thing to another.

But it drives me nuts that some individuals have to steer each and every topic to their own special axe for grinding.

Dog-On-Porch's one man crusade against Islam comes to mind as a prominent example. Look, shit-head, people get to talk about baseball or Game of Thrones without the Battle of Vienna being brought into it.

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« Reply #83 on: July 26, 2017, 01:22:43 am »
I'll only say this once and leave it at that. MLW won't run smoothly as long as the primary moderator is a conspiracy-loving anarchist. The position doesn't suit his disposition and is the primary reason there are some many dissatisfied posters. His moderation is not up for discussion over there because Greg trusts him and likes the job he's doing, so it will not ever change. End of story. I'm quite alright with being banned.

it appears the absentee landlord could care less about failed MLW moderation - but surely all that free/exhaustive so-called ChasMan "moderation" is an unfair labour practice!

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« Reply #84 on: July 26, 2017, 04:19:16 pm »
Yes, because you went after the person not the argument.

I agree that it's frustrating but I can't make up rules.  For that matter, there seems to be more touchiness about certain things than others, eg. disparaging sources.  Not sure why.

Often the person is the argument, if you honestly don't understand or are unwilling to deal with that you shouldn't be running or moderating a forum.  Some people simply need to be ignored, and no, that doesn't mean letting them spam a forum with ridiculous nonsense and telling everyone else to play nice.  The real problem is, you, and the others over there, are just not very good at it.  Maybe it's the 'everyone gets a ribbon' society we live in, but some people are legitimately stupid, legitimately hateful, and they deserve to be told and treated as such.  For some reason, you think they need protection, and in protecting people like that you bring the rest of us down, to the point that you prefer to have them post more than the others. Well done.

But apparently you think another 9/11 thermite, etc. conspiracy theory thread is 'interesting' enough to keep around for weeks. So on it goes.
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« Reply #85 on: July 26, 2017, 04:26:09 pm »
Whatever you say, Mister Trump.

While it doesn't realize, or probably care because that's it's true intent, that it is a prime example of the worse that forum allows itself to offer on either an ongoing basis or for extended periods of time, it doesn't argue, it spits bile, but you must respect it, lest you be judged as the 'problem'.

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« Reply #86 on: July 26, 2017, 06:03:07 pm »
Often the person is the argument, if you honestly don't understand or are unwilling to deal with that you shouldn't be running or moderating a forum. 

Well I don't agree that people are arguments.  I'm not asking for advice anyway.

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The real problem is, you, and the others over there, are just not very good at it.

You have no idea, really.  Your argument seems to be with the rules which I had little influence on.

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But apparently you think another 9/11 thermite, etc. conspiracy theory thread is 'interesting' enough to keep around for weeks. So on it goes.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.