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General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« Last post by jmt18325 on June 23, 2017, 09:24:14 pm »
I think I should back this up - I'm not arguing that the word doesn't have horrible connotations.  It shouldn't be said.  I used it as an example of how I feel about all words in general.  Words are inventions of humanity that we give meaning to.  The N word is something that we gave meaning to.  Humanity collectively could also take that meaning away, though far less easily given the history of the word's use.
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General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« Last post by jmt18325 on June 23, 2017, 09:13:27 pm »
I don't think it's your place to tell people what should and what shouldn't offend them. 

Especially when you have no first hand knowledge of what being a victim of racism feels like.

I think the two of you are arguing from a completely different philosophical place than I am.
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There wasn't enough evidence to charge OJ Simpson with murder but the reason I still believe he did it has nothing to do with hating him.

OJ was charged for double-murder & went to trial. 

And there seemed like enough evidence to convict him - victims blood all over his bronco, victim-bloody glove on OJ's property - the brilliant defense just "planted" doubt into a largely black jury.
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Well, I think the most serious allegation at this point is 'obstruction of justice'... and there is more than enough evidence to elevate that from an 'allegation' to 'this is a thing that likely happened'.

What about the alleged colluding with the Putin gov to undermine Hillary during the election cycle?
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General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« Last post by BC_cheque on June 23, 2017, 07:42:41 pm »
I don't think it's your place to tell people what should and what shouldn't offend them. 

Especially when you have no first hand knowledge of what being a victim of racism feels like.
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Canadian Politics / Re: Justin Trudeau: the White Supremacist
« Last post by Omni on June 23, 2017, 07:05:25 pm »
So how are Black people (most of whom haven't been IN this country more than a generation) more oppressed by this than a poor white unilingual boy like I was?

I would agree that "in this country" things were better for non whites than they were sought of the border. But to not have witnessed oppression in this country you must have been a government employee hiding in an office building all your life.
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General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« Last post by jmt18325 on June 23, 2017, 06:38:27 pm »
This makes my point far better than I can:

In some sense words really are magic spells. Say the right syllables and you assume tremendous power. But that too is an illusion, because the words themselves don't actually make you stronger.

There's real power in the world, there is real racism and sexism and oppression. People have suffered from these abuses.

The words themselves, though, are a string of sounds and some scratches on a page. They only have the power that we have collectively decided they should possess.

http://blog.nathanbransford.com/2013/03/words-have-power-we-give-them.html
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I actually don't think that the Trudeau government is mostly responsible for higher growth - I'm just using it the same way everyone else does.
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General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« Last post by jmt18325 on June 23, 2017, 06:34:56 pm »
Words are not things - they can't hurt you unless you give them that power.  Yes, the word has been used with terrible intent and in the name of terrible deeds.  It doesn't make it any more than a word.  It's not something you're going to change my mind on.
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I think most people are just waiting to see it all come out from the investigations.  Others, however, hate the man so much they believe all of the the allegations already. 


There wasn't enough evidence to charge OJ Simpson with murder but the reason I still believe he did it has nothing to do with hating him.

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