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General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« on: June 23, 2017, 07:42:41 pm »
I don't think it's your place to tell people what should and what shouldn't offend them. 

Especially when you have no first hand knowledge of what being a victim of racism feels like.

I think most people are just waiting to see it all come out from the investigations.  Others, however, hate the man so much they believe all of the the allegations already. 

There wasn't enough evidence to charge OJ Simpson with murder but the reason I still believe he did it has nothing to do with hating him.

General Discussion / Re: The N Word
« on: June 23, 2017, 05:24:57 pm »
Yeah, classic, 'don't be so sensitive' abuser excuse.

General Discussion / Re: Transit Culture
« on: June 20, 2017, 11:26:52 pm »
She didn't look like she was getting a spot.  It was like pushing a beach ball into a wall of people.  The look on her face was priceless... a kind of evil "I will get away with this" smile.

I was trying on maternity clothes and in the change room there was a padding in the shape of '7 months' for women in their early pregnancy to see how the clothes will fit down the line. 

I admit, I had an evil moment imagining the endless possibilities of owning one of those....


General Discussion / Re: Transit Culture
« on: June 20, 2017, 09:44:22 pm »
  A pregnant woman squeezed in, after all who is going to criticize a pregnant woman ?

When you can't drink alcohol or bend over to tie your shoes the least you can do is take advantage of the good parking spots and people giving up their seats on the train.

General Discussion / Re: Investments
« on: June 19, 2017, 02:43:57 am »
What are they doing that's unethical?

They sell at lower prices than their competitors and then buy them out.  They track the sales of individuals selling on their site and eventually use the sales data to undersell them with their best selling products.  The purchase of Whole Foods was almost a hostile takeover last year and ended up happening this year with Whole Foods CEO basically getting to keep his job in return for the purchase.  They're now in monopoly territory and some would say they already are there.

Nothing illegal and good for them, they've been very successful and I do occasionally buy from them, but generally I like to support smaller businesses so I personally would feel conflicted.

If you can put that aside, they're basically unstoppable at this point and unlike facebook which I could see one day losing ground, I can't see what could possibly change in the future for Amazon.  Their aggressive tactics and expansion into so many different industries (they really are a conglomerate at this point), coupled with their technology and work culture, they're a force to be reckoned with. 

Bezos is gonna takover Bill Gates as the world's richest very soon.

General Discussion / Re: Investments
« on: June 18, 2017, 10:24:50 pm »
I've never invested in my life, but this month I happen to have $5000 looking to make some money for me.  Any suggestions from the more experienced?   

If you're thinking of individual stocks, Amazon is starting to look like a pretty safe bet.   

If I didn't have an ethical dilemma about what they're doing, I would buy some of their stocks. 

They're going nowhere but up.

Canadian Politics / Re: Trudeau to Gay People: Sorry, my bad
« on: June 18, 2017, 10:07:35 pm »

As for the MMIW...  I have a strong hunch that by far the biggest threat to aboriginal women is aboriginal men.  If the inquiry reaches that finding... is that going to make people happy?

What bothers me the most about MMIW is not so much who is killing the women, it's the the way police don't care to bring the perpetrators to justice.  It's similar to the Pickton murders where police allowed 50 women get killed and didn't follow up on leads because the women were mostly drug-addicted prostitutes. 

It bothers me that their lives are deemed too inconsequential to investigate and to bring closure to their families. 

Whatever they find as the biggest threat to aboriginal women, I'm sure the investigation will also show a systematic ambivalence to solve their murders. 

I'm not aboriginal so I can't speak for the community, but the ambivalence is the bigger issue as far as I'm concerned than who is doing the killing.

General Discussion / Re: Gender Culture
« on: June 18, 2017, 09:57:45 pm »
It's an assumption that a trans woman has no sexual interest in women.  Dia mentioned that one of her trans women acquaintances was a lesbian.  I'm no expert on the subject, but I don't think that gender dysphoria is necessary linked to homosexuality.

As well, lesbians don't walk into a locker-room with a sign that says "Lesbian".   If you've changed in a public facility, you've probably been checked out by lesbians, and women who were curious, and by completely straight women who are still interested in seeing what "the competition" has.

And you keep using the word logic, but none of this has anything to do with logic. 

People accept the premise of a female safe-space free from men, but the reason some women seek out male-free spaces is due to anxiety directly related to naked males, regardless of gender identity.

If someone was traumatized by a dog attack early in life, and later finds themselves standing in front of a big Rottweiler, the owner's assurance that "relax, he's friendly" actually does very little to reassured the frightened person.  It's not a switch people can just turn on and off.  And someone with anxiety regarding being naked in front of males will not simply feel reassured by "relax, she's trans."

I'm also still curious about the hypothetical Muslim patron. Do her religious sensibilities deserve consideration that other women don't?


No, I don't think a Muslim woman's right trumps a transgender right.  I don't think any kind of religious right should trample on any type of human right.  If the law regards a transgender woman as a woman, she should have a right to exercise in a woman's facility.  If that makes any Jew, Christian or Muslim, uncomfortable, that's too bad. 

If the sight of a woman with a penis could cause harm to others, I could see the point, otherwise no. 

As for feeling threatened by a penis, I don't think that's why we have segregated gyms.  Having worked in gyms when I was younger, I know it's partly women wanting to work out without being watched by men, and also because they don't want to be hit on by men.

Which brings us back to the lesbian comparison.  With a lesbian, she is for sure interested in women, but a transgender woman may or may not be interested in women.  That's why I said it's more logical to be uncomfortable around lesbians even though we're not.

The point I was making which you did not address was that 50 years ago there was just as much of a fuss put up about allowing gay women into change rooms, but as times passed most of us couldn't care less if they're working out next to us.

In due time, I believe the same thing will happen with transgender women.

General Discussion / Re: Transit Culture
« on: June 15, 2017, 03:59:49 pm »
Wait.  Is this Vancouver ?  How does it work ?

One time I was there and somebody told us to take the 'C' bus.  But ... no ... it was the 'Sea Bus'.  The damn transit there goes on the OCEAN.  :D

Haha.  I grew up on the north shore so I've been familiar with the seabus all my life.  I used to catch it to go see movies downtown and it was just the coolest thing as a teenager. 

I never considered how it would sound to someone not local. 

What the heck were they thinking now that you mention it.

General Discussion / Re: Re: Host Censorship
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:49:56 am »
You and I have had this discussion before.  I don't believe in swearing in conversation.  I do believe in the value of artistic and real expression.  Swearing is part of language and culture.  Words are, IMO, only as powerful as what you make them.  That's why I really don't understand the whole controversy over Bill Maher and the use of the N word.

Two things.  First, the N-word is not the same thing as swearing.  It is a highly charged word in the historical context and cannot be compared to someone who is just too sensitive to hear the words fuck and shit.  And I really don't think anyone who is not black has a right to say whether or not blacks are too sensitive about the issue.

Second, I sort of understand banning swear words, but this forum has blocked me using the words pedophile and penis.  These are both G-rated and have a place in everyday discourse.  They should not be disallowed.

General Discussion / Re: Transit Culture
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:27:52 am »
I was in Vancouver last weekend.  I drove.  It's definitely stressful.  Especially downtown and Granville Island.

I was a die hard city girl who couldn't imagine being more than 10 minutes driving distance from the downtown core, but ever since I moved to the burbs, I can't stand it anymore. 

I have to go downtown once a month to see a client and I go crazy.  I have several friends in the neighbourhood who commute every day to the city and I just couldn't imagine.

If I ever have the misfortune of having to work downtown every day I would take the skytrain and download a bunch of netflix shows to watch en route.

General Discussion / Re: Gender Culture
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:14:13 am »
Maybe it's not about whether someone might be looking at you in a sexual sense.

That hasn't been my experience, but if establishments are updating their changing areas to provide more privacy, I think that would do a lot to put their patrons' discomfort to rest.

Ok, hang on... many people now accept the premise that some people are so fragile that we should avoid using the word "rayp" (I can't believe the forum censors that one too...), and do "jazz hands" or snap our fingers instead of clapping.  And yet we're also now proposing that women who hold to long-standing social norms regarding intersex group nudity have to just shut up and deal with it?

Do you have to be special in some way before your feelings merit some consideration?

And we're now at a point where some people support providing women-only swimming times at public pools, out of respect for Muslim customs. And yet the mood now appears that women ought to share not just the swimming pool but also their showers and changing room with biologically male patrons.  Don't you think there's a bit of a contradiction there?

If a Muslim member of BodyBlitz complained that having to change in the presence of a biologically male person was against her religious beliefs, would people support some sort of "reasonable accommodation" for her?

And, if so, then why shouldn't there likewise be an effort to make reasonable accommodation for people who are just not comfortable changing in front of some unfamiliar person with their dong hanging out?

If there's a male you don't know in the locker room, what's your first reaction?

Discrimination isn't necessarily illegal.  The very existence of female-only facilities is an example of a situation where it was decided that there was a reasonable justification for discrimination. 

Another fair reason for discrimination might be to preserve the patrons' sense of security and privacy.

Another fair reason for discrimination might be to avoid economic hardship-- which might be the result if patrons stop coming to the club because they find the locker-room situation to be uncomfortable or upsetting.


I brought up the lesbian comparison to say that logically, I would think that it be more unsettling to change in front of someone with similar anatomy who is looking at me sexually than someone with different anatomy who is completely oblivious to my sexual existence.

I say that to make a case for the fact that there is nothing logical about being uncomfortable around a transgender woman and that it's just a matter of unfamiliarity.  For example, I'm sure  50 years ago the number of women unwilling to change in front of lesbians was a lot more than now than lesbians are more accepted after decades of familiarity.

As for the last couple of paragraphs, as I said before, I do get the other side of the argument, but I think that sometimes the masses have to be forced out of their ignorance.  There was a lot of resistance to blacks drinking from the same fountains and gays being able to hold hands without getting killed. 

Both societal shifts took decades to happen and it all started with the few people who stood up for their rights. 

In other words, if some people wanted to boycott a restaurant back in the 50's that allowed blacks and whites to sit together, continuing segregation wasn't the answer. 

I'd like to be on the right side of history when inevitably the same shift happens with transgenders.

  He was also the head of the FBI, who you'd think would be smart enough to bring along a gadget James Bond-style to record conversions with Trump if he felt threatened rather than rely on he-said she-said.

Maybe he didn't feel threatened until after the meeting.  In his testimony he said Trump had been praising him prior to the meeting, after all.

I don't think there is any way you could argue Comey was against Trump with the way he openly investigated Clinton's email, twice, right before the election, yet kept quiet about the Trump investigation which had been going on since June.

Consider that Trump is now in more legal trouble than W. Bush was ever in...and Trump has only been in office a few months! Consider that virtually the entire GOP was behind Dubya & his lies before Iraq, & almost half of the Democrats too:  And consider that the CIA & George Tenet was in on the sham with Dubya, & consider if the FBI should be trusted any more than the CIA?

I remember things very differently than you, I don't remember W being in any trouble at all, in spite of all his lying.  The Republicans defended him to the end the way they are doing now with Trump.

They only turned on him at the end when the housing market tanked. 

General Discussion / Re: Gender Culture
« on: June 12, 2017, 01:37:32 pm »
You don't agree with BodyBlitz's policy you mean ?

No, I don't.  If it's meant to keep the straight men posing out, it's throwing the baby out with the bath water and if they just don't believe transgender women are real women, then it's archaic.

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