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Title: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Super Colin Blow on February 06, 2017, 11:13:42 am
As was L. Cornelius Sulla named dictator to reconstitute the Roman Republic in 81 B.C., I hereby grant any of you the authority to write a new constitution to replace the Constitution of 1787 (as amended).

Caveats:
1. The Bill of Rights stays as is, including its present interpretations thereof.
2. the United States must remain a PRESIDENTIAL republic: no prime ministers, no kings.

Any takers?  :)
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: TimG on February 06, 2017, 12:29:21 pm
sounds like someone's homework...
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: guest4 on February 06, 2017, 12:47:57 pm
3.  I, Donald Trump, shall be your BEST President, ever
4.  Everyone shall admire and praise me
5.  No other President has ever been, nor ever will be as great as I am
6.  If anyone disagrees, I shall twitter them to death
7.  I will provide the most and best jobs every, the best and most security ever of any President, past or future
8.  All my public appearances will be attended by millions of people and will have standing ovations


Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: JMT on February 06, 2017, 01:06:30 pm
3.  I, Donald Trump, shall be your BEST President, ever
4.  Everyone shall admire and praise me
5.  No other President has ever been, nor ever will be as great as I am
6.  If anyone disagrees, I shall twitter them to death
7.  I will provide the most and best jobs every, the best and most security ever of any President, past or future
8.  All my public appearances will be attended by millions of people and will have standing ovations

Now that's good, I have to admit.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Super Colin Blow on February 06, 2017, 06:57:57 pm
Sounds a bit like "I am the Donald, your President.  Thou shalt have no other presidents before me."
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Super Colin Blow on February 07, 2017, 02:04:51 pm
Come on, anyone? There's gotta be a lotta stuff people find wrong with our present constitution.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: JMT on February 07, 2017, 02:08:44 pm
I was going to suggest a Semi Presidential Republic, but then I saw your caveat.  It's always been a government system I really like.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2017, 02:17:07 pm
3.  I, Donald Trump, shall be your BEST President, ever
4.  Everyone shall admire and praise me
5.  No other President has ever been, nor ever will be as great as I am
6.  If anyone disagrees, I shall twitter them to death
7.  I will provide the most and best jobs every, the best and most security ever of any President, past or future
8.  All my public appearances will be attended by millions of people and will have standing ovations

Excellent but you forgot.

There shall be no term limits and I get to name my successor.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: ?Impact on February 07, 2017, 03:23:25 pm
There shall be no term limits and I get to name my successor.

What's wrong with the first born male child, and if he is really a dud then nothing a hired assassin couldn't resolve.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Super Colin Blow on February 07, 2017, 03:34:21 pm
Originally there weren't term limits.  Washington could have served until he dropped dead.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2017, 04:10:57 pm
Originally there weren't term limits.  Washington could have served until he dropped dead.

Quite true. FDR also served three terms and did serve until he dropped dead.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Super Colin Blow on February 13, 2017, 02:11:21 am
Exactly.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: JMT on February 13, 2017, 10:06:40 am
I can see the value in term limits, but I can also see the value in not having them.  I think I'd personally get rid of them myself.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Blueblood on February 13, 2017, 02:08:39 pm
I can see the value in term limits, but I can also see the value in not having them.  I think I'd personally get rid of them myself.

Term limits are a check on the power of someone.  It is a good check on power so that it clearly defines a mandate and prevents despotism. 
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 13, 2017, 03:35:34 pm
I can see the value in term limits, but I can also see the value in not having them.  I think I'd personally get rid of them myself.

The last U.S. election shows how bad term limits are.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: JMT on February 13, 2017, 06:16:30 pm
Term limits are a check on the power of someone.  It is a good check on power so that it clearly defines a mandate and prevents despotism.

That's what the electorate is for.
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: cybercoma on February 14, 2017, 06:28:08 am
Have you considered the US electorate?
Title: Re: Constitution of 2018
Post by: JMT on February 14, 2017, 09:33:52 am
Have you considered the US electorate?

Touché