I play the fiddle really well - or I did. I haven't played in years. It really disappoints my family that I quit. I always plan to pick it up, but life always gets in the way.That's rad af. Pick it up again. You need to just decide to do it. Go into a shop one day and buy a new fiddle. That'll inspire you to monkey around again.
So Kimmy, what's your favourite genre of music? You seem like a riddle wrapped in an enigma :P
I play the fiddle really well - or I did. I haven't played in years. It really disappoints my family that I quit. I always plan to pick it up, but life always gets in the way.
On the rock stations in my city they've started to splice in pop songs (like the Weeknd) into the rotation, as well as pop-ish songs that don't sound very rock-like. Sad that rock is basically dead, the industy on its last legs. A young generation now growing up with hardly any new big acts. Thanks Napster.
Why these?
Augh. Well... I am going to listen to these but I have to be mentally ready.
"The best stuff coming out of Nashville is all by women except for Chris Stapleton," he said. "The guys just wanna sing about getting f***ed up. They're just doing hip hop for people who are afraid of black people.
"I like the new Kendrick Lamar record, so I'll just listen to that."
Black Flag, Black Sabbath, Black Uhuru.
I know those. Maybe Frank Black too.
Yeah, I have heard his music before and remember it was good.... though a younger vibe than mine...
What's crazy is that you and I are most likely very close in age. I am in my late 40s. , been djing since the late 80s .. and been producing for about a decade.. Once I found electronic music and specifically the Chicago, and Detroit house (leading to Underground and other permutations of house) I was hooked. My pals ridiculed me for a very long time. I said to them, that they would eventually get into it .. I was right :D
Sunburn is the newest project .. this is my older and still kind of ongoing project https://soundcloud.com/openheartmachine-ohm
Thanks all for the support!
BTW just LISTEN. Don't watch the video.
A warning like that just makes people curious. Why not watch the video? Does something horrible happen?
-k
A warning like that just makes people curious. Why not watch the video? Does something horrible happen?
-k
I remember listening to that song over and over when it came out trying to figure out whether the repeated huh-huh-huh sample was a human voice or a squeeze horn. I'm still not sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfpi2H8tOE
We depend to much on the visuals to compliment the song. If I cannot listen to the song without the video, then it fails to deliver, in my opinion. This probably hurt a lot of bands more than helped them. I will point to the era of 'glam metal' or 'hair metal'. A good deal of those songs are terrible, and the videos were just as bad. Most videos are simply the band playing in some environment with other scenes cut in that may not make sense to the song. Very boring videos and the songs (for the most part), in the end, were not great either.
Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the last six months, you’ve almost certainly heard Despacito. Now hear it as covered by a rubber chicken!
https://youtu.be/SxTNhD5jTyQ
New Jack White from his upcoming album. OFF THE CHAIN!!
Speaking of Can-Con, Jesse Cook along with Chris Church and the rest of his amazing band. Wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38fvrvLT3fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibggo2ygmAw
All those Day-Glo freaks who used to paint their face
They've joined the human race
Some things will never change
Coolio. I'm going to check out more Dolly Rocker Movement.
Thanks :D
Oh! Speaking of SLAYER ... uh, I don't actually know any Slayer, except Buffy the Vampire Slayer of course. But I used to like MEGADETH!
It's a bit of a change from SLAYER :)
ANCIENT GREEK MUSIC !
http://www.openculture.com/2018/08/see-ancient-greek-music-accurately-reconstructed-first-time.html
“This is a sound that hasn’t been heard for 2000 years”...
To that I said “thank goodness.... now let it go back to the grave.... please! My ears bleed!”
Greta Van Fleet (the band, not the old lady) has been getting a lot of attention lately, probably because their singer sounds an awful lot like Robert Plant. I heard them on the radio and was sure that I was listening to some Led Zepplin song I'd not heard before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co
This may be the best music video ever
Daft Punk - Around the World
This may be the best music video ever
My first exposure to Daft Punk was this video which was a big hit on Much Music, back in the days when they still played music videos on Much Music. This touched me. This poor guy wandering around downtown, feeling isolated, feeling like an outsider... not because he's a talking dog, but because he is brown.
The Chemical Brothers were like a British link between Oasis/Blur and all of that stuff... and ... rave music ? I'm reaching into music waaay too young for me.
The below video came out around the same time I remember, my and many people's introduction to the Chemical Brothers, it blew my mind. Back then my friends and I were into some weird ****. Inhaling Kubrick and Tarantino movies, staying up watching bad horror movies and the like.
That's the best kind of music.
Live performances in small intimate venues? Or songs by women with floppy hats?
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First one. Especially if it's good. Good locals beat all. The tourist music in St. John's NFLD was a little hokey though.
That singer belting "Joey" live really nailed it, she sounds just like she does on the recording.
"I didn't like my words when I wrote them. They are accusatory and condescending."
She remembers her reaction when she got the call to do the "Sweet Home Alabama" session: "I really don't want to sing anything about Alabama after what happened in Alabama."
Clayton is African-American, and says she could not stop thinking about the infamous 1963 Ku Klux Klan bombing of a church in Birmingham. "I said four little girls lost their lives, and it just broke everyone's heart. I said I don't want to sing anything to do with Alabama. And I went on and on and on."
And yet, there she is on the finished track. I asked Clayton if appearing on the record was a way of laying claim to it — of saying, "My experience is part of the Alabama experience as well." Her response? "Absolutely. You got it."
Sticking with Kimmy’s Can-con theme...
Headpins! Great song.
Headpins! Great song.
https://youtu.be/jjC50QRAXfI
While listening back to the song for a 2018 NPR show, journalist Ailsa Chang and music reviewer Rob Harvilla refer to the track's music video as "Westernized" and a "racist fantasy of Africa." The only defence that Harvilla can muster is that the song is at least "honest about what it is." That is, "a very cheesy, synth-driven song, you know, about a white person singing about Africa despite never having been to Africa."
For some reason "Africa" by Toto has gone through some sort of inexplicable revival. (https://www.bustle.com/p/why-is-africa-by-toto-such-a-big-deal-the-classic-80s-tune-lives-on-on-on-15836592)
Toto is vastly unrecognized as a major force in music. The players were session people that played on EVERYTHING from cartoon theme songs to Michael Jackson's Thriller.
I did not know that!
Did you know that Toto composed the soundtrack to the movie Dune?
Dire Straits’ standing as MTV megalords belied the absurdly humble origins of Sultans Of Swing. Singer/guitarist Mark Knopfler had written it in 1977, after ducking into a deserted pub one rainy night and witnessing a lousy jazz band. Undeterred by the lack of both talent and punters, their lead singer finished the set with a mildly enthusiastic, “Goodnight and thank you. We are the Sultans Of Swing.”
A few years ago Swedish metal band Ghost showed up on my radio with an infectious song called "Squarehammer". After a couple of listens, I noticed that the lyrics were real actual Devil-worshiper lyrics. Imagine that! Real actual Devil-worshipin', on my radio right here in Kim City. Who'd have thunk it? Anyway, Ghost are back on my radio. While not explicitly about Devil-worshipin, "Rats" is pretty apocalyptic. But oh so catchy! The video for "Rats" has some creepy Vincent Price-lookin' dude dancing in urban decay while rats devour everything in sight.
The guitar player for our stage band was the best player I ever knew. He worshipped Knopfler so when we found out that our man would have to drop out after the next show for cancer treatment we scheduled Sultans and he nailed it.
Like all true talents I have known, he did not hold himself in high esteem. Very humble. Died six years ago, in his 40s.
The Glorious Sons are a band from Kingston Ontario, and have had some success on Canadian modern-rock radio. They have a nice straightforward energetic sound.
Their most recent single is called "S.O.S" and has become a huge hit for them in the US as well. It's about someone struggling. He's on the brink financially and his mental health is not holding up. "S.O.S" is the universal distress signal in Morse Code, but in this instance it stands for "Sawed-Off Shotgun". The narrator may be planning on going on a spree of some kind. Despite the grim subject matter the song has an ironically cheerful sing-a-long vibe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUVDmVM9RtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAThXFOy2c
Not generally a country music fan, I like the blues-y feel to this version.
Audiobook of the Clash narrated by Chuck D ??
I really dislike most country music, but there are some songs that are just undeniably brilliant. "Jolene" by Dolly Parton, "Country Road, Take Me Home" by John Denver, "Storms Never Last" by Jessie Coulter and Waylon Jennings, "Friends in Low Places" by Garth Brooks, "The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers...
Sister Rosetta Tharpe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Rosetta_Tharpe).
I'd never heard of her before today, but she was a foundational figure in rock and roll. It's not just what she's doing... it's when she was doing it. She was developing a style that influenced many of the pioneers of rock and roll, before rock and roll existed.
-k
Can you believe she only made it into the Rock and Roll HoF last year...?
Here's a longer film of the railway station performance seen for a short time in your clip. Somewhere near Manchester, England, I think.
Her guitar playing technique had a profound influence on the development of British blues in the 1960s; in particular a European tour with Muddy Waters in 1963 with a stop in Manchester is cited by prominent British guitarists such as Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Keith Richards.
Rock and roll Hall of Fame is a joke like the Grammy's.
Pet Shop Boys are still around ? And making an obvious political message ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9jEuHbB0GQ&feature=youtu.be
I like Modest Mouse just fine... but I lump them with the load of post-Napster indie bands whose impact will never be like those who came about during the age of radio. Popular music is like politics, music, or anything tha thas been impacted by online: it's all too much and not enough.He's been called the father of grunge since the early 1990s. Rust never sleeps was grunge before grunge.
Here's something on Neil Young. They're calling him the father of grunge here ? I haven't listened but it seems wrongheaded.
http://www.openculture.com/2019/05/who-is-neil-young.html
Rust never sleeps was grunge before grunge.
What about the Pink Fairies? They were pretty grungy when Rust Never Sleeps was just a twinkle in Neil's eye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7qnLbNAHG0
I always suspected there was something about you. This is a super obscure band who I have heard a few times but definitely a musical island separate from all around them.
Just be grateful I didn't post Pigs of Uranus!
Oh what the hell...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n158dLN3fU
Can I suggest you move that jumpy uppy downy thing over to the forum it's more suited to. BC04 would probably get his jolies if ya did.
Can I suggest you move that jumpy uppy downy thing over to the forum it's more suited to. BC04 would probably get his jolies if ya did.
Can I suggest you pull your lip over your head and swallow?
-k
Don't you think I tried? It won't do GIFs.
What about the Pink Fairies? They were pretty grungy when Rust Never Sleeps was just a twinkle in Neil's eye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7qnLbNAHG0
Back in the early 1990s I tried to bunny hop a curb on my bike and completely failed and tacoed the back wheel. I got this guy with a messed up arm named Paul at my local bike shop to replace it and he did an awesome job building the new wheel. My friend's junky brother Jeff, who was always lying about everything, told me that Paul used to be in the Pink Faeries. I didn't believe him, but years later, long after Jeff had OD'd and died, I decided to look that up. Turns out Jeff wasn't lying.
I'll do some shameless self promotion.
Been working on a new track for the last couple months and decided last night it was done.
https://soundcloud.com/sunburn-ottawa/low-n-slow
They apparently are getting some hype due to a TIFF documentary showing this week. I'm wondering if they will get their due.
Question for you under 55 years old:
Do you appreciate The Band ?
They apparently are getting some hype due to a TIFF documentary showing this week. I'm wondering if they will get their due.
Arguably THE most influential, and greatest Canadian Rock Band. Arguably.
Geddy Lee singing "Take off" with Bob & Doug was my favourite. Ten bucks is ten bucks.
New question:
What is the last rock band ?
I would say Radiohead is the 2nd last one... and they melted into ambient electronica last album I listened to. And The Darkness is the bow on the package.
Just because rock bands exist doesn't mean rock isn't dead. There are still plenty of jazz musicians but jazz died around the 1960s.
Once there are no revolutionary innovations and it starts regurgitating the same patterns and ideas, it may still be nice to listen to but it's dead as an art form.
agree with bubbs
I heard a live bluegrass last night, but if I stopped 100 people on the street (in Calgary) they couldn't name the top bluegrass band in Canada or the world.
Ok so if we agree that rock is dead as pop culture, we need to determine the last great rock band that made an impact in pop culture.
MH says Radiohead and The Darkness. Radiohead is a bit too old i think. They got big in the mid and late 90's. The Darkness came on the scene in 2003 but IMO weren't quite popular enough. Maybe someone like System of a Down who hit it big in 2001.
Nickelback might be the last worldwide rock pop culture phenomenon? Their 2nd album in 2001 sold 10 million worldwide, which is insane. They're not a bad band, though i'm not a huge fan, but i think most people hate them because after they got big the struggling rock industry music a million different bands that sounded like them, so they kind of represent this huge bland commercialized "sellout" band.
The Killers hit big in 2004 (Hot Fuss), but really only had 1 good album (though Oasis only had 2 good albums). The White Stripes hit big 2001-2003 (Seven Nation Army came out 2003).
Wait - posted at 510 am BC time ?
My sleep cycle has been out of control for a variety of reasons.
-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Y2vQ-1m7M
This groove is rocking our house and easy more than anything right now.
Bonus -> Kimmy, babynomoney (BBNO$) lives in Kelowna !
This is just a song that's easy to stick in the head. No talent here.
I love the African woman. I really love her, and she makes me swoon though I'm not physically attracted to her. She is like a goddess. I would be nervous even to stand near her. I couldn't imagine kissing her, she is too perfect.
Love the band... Robbie though... musicians kind of don't get enthusiastic about him... Leon Helm, Garth Hudson, yeah...I think in this case you really need to cap Band. Also, he shall be Levon (and he shall be a good man).
New Pearl Jam single is different and really cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymf7DZUeVow
I am getting into this band - which is the main guy from Blur and a cartoon artist who does amazing graphics for the cartoon version of the band.
This is a new track from them. I love the African woman. I really love her, and she makes me swoon though I'm not physically attracted to her. She is like a goddess. I would be nervous even to stand near her. I couldn't imagine kissing her, she is too perfect.
YEAHHHHH,
Finally somebody let me out of my cage
I had taken you more for Generation X. You must look like a grandpa at the play park.
You're not even into the terrible twos yet. You'll age 10 years in 6 months.
I have great hair, if that means anything. No visible grey.Me too, at 62. I think I look mid-50s, but maybe I'm just being polite. :)
Today was the 40th anniversary of the murder of John Lennon.No one ever talks about the other Lennon assassinated by a crazed fan---that is, the father of the Lennon Sisters from the Laurence Welk Show.
-k
No one ever talks about the other Lennon assassinated by a crazed fan---that is, the father of the Lennon Sisters from the Laurence Welk Show.???
On the vinyl front from the personal forum, I have a 71 copy of Moving Waves by Focus. I bought it for one tune, Hocus Pocus. Early seventies head banging that still sounds great, This is a later longer version from a 2002 concert.
I saw that Montero video and decided that I am too old to understand anything.
Both of them are listenable. Top one reminds me of Kate & Cindy of B52s vocals, Chris Isaak, The XX.
And music these days - new music - isn't really that 'new' is it ?
Can you explain Kendrick Lamar to me?
Be bop is music, but more like a university lecture on theory.Bebop is like brutalist architecture. Very, very modern and imposing and often ugly at first glance, but very bold and interesting because of that. They both came from around the same time too.
1. the fly-on-the-wall approach Jackson used feels much more intimate than a more didactic one, there's no denying there are large parts that feel like a slog as you watch the band bicker, plunk through half baked song ideas and loaf around shooting the ****.1. can you credit Jackson with this since he's using found footage ?
2. Anyway, I've hit the part where Billy Preston joins the band on keyboard and things really seem to be picking up so maybe the back half will be stronger.
1. can you credit Jackson with this since he's using found footage ?
2. did you see Let It Be ?
1. Why would using previously existing footage matter? Dude combed through 60 hours of footage, restored it and enhanced the audio with the state of the art technology. Took him four years to make! Did you see his WW1 doc "They Shall Not Grow Old?"
2. I have not seen the original in its entirety, just the rooftop concert sequence.
1. I think most 'director' credits involve more.
2. I saw it. What I am hearing sounds like... that film.
1. Such as? Does Ken Burns not get credit for not hopping in a time machine?
2. It's not. In fact, with "Get Back" Jackson specifically set about to offer a counternarrative to the one in Let It Be that the final sessions were completely awful. there's a lot more joy in the footage he found. My big complaint is teh run time.
1. I haven't seen it, but if there's additional framing, writing and so on, on the scale of a Ken Burns piece then that would make sense.
I think you're also underrating the technical achievement.
The new Beatles documentary from Peter Jackson is on Disney+ and I'm about halfway through. I'm a huge Beatles fan, and while the fly-on-the-wall approach Jackson used feels much more intimate than a more didactic one, there's no denying there are large parts that feel like a slog as you watch the band bicker, plunk through half baked song ideas and loaf around shooting the ****. It's not clear exactly why this needed to be more than eight hours long. Perhaps the idea is to strip away the mythology and show how the sausage is made, which is a long and tedious process punctuated by moments of genius like this one. (https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1465130646356082692?s=20)
Anyway, I've hit the part where Billy Preston joins the band on keyboard and things really seem to be picking up so maybe the back half will be stronger.
Isn't it the most elemental creative process? It's mystical in that they are channelled more than written. All songwriters say the same thing about their great works: they have no idea where they came from. Paul McCartney wrote Yesterday in a dream. On writing Stardust, Hoagy Carmichael said "[I felt] that queer sensation that this melody was bigger than me. Maybe I didn’t write it at all.“
This sentiment has been shared by Paul Simon and Bob Dylan among others. Songwriting---especoally really good songwriting--is not so much an invention but a celestial discovery.
I hate the Beetles.
I hate the Beetles.
In what way ? Just the music ? The personas ? The hype ?
Ok, sure.
This works both ways too, as I don't get Kendrick Lamar or ... Lorde..
I hate the Beetles.
They're a very good band. They're just a zillion times overrated. They're overrated because they wrote pop songs. The Stones wrote darker stuff, but are just as good.
The Beatles are a just a band.
It's true. And it's sad that people only know Louis Armstrong for What a Wonderful World and not for inventing and establishing the musical vocabulary of 20th century popular music.
People make the mistake constantly of comparing pioneers to what came after, which without them would have been... Nothing.
1. So without the Beetles, music would have just fizzled away? LOL1. Well, no I guess not
2. Something else inevitably would have come along, even if it was different, and we would all be looking back at them as the pioneers.
They're a very good band. They're just a zillion times overrated. They're overrated because they wrote pop songs. The Stones wrote darker stuff, but are just as good.
The Beatles are a just a band.
Leonardo de Vinci was no big deal. If he hadn't come along, we would have just looked at some other guy's paintings.
People make the mistake constantly of comparing pioneers to what came after, which without them would have been... Nothing.
Don't get me wrong: I love the Stones, but they're a bar band doing country and blues covers.
You're missing a lot:
-the musical innovation
-the cultural pervasiveness
-the counterculture message
-the arrival of the superstar image
-international fame
-introduction of International musical influences
I don't think being very popular has anything to do with how great of a band they are/were.
Ok, and The Beatles were white Motown. So what?
People don't rave more about the Beatles because they hit a year before the Stones. They care about the music. The Beach Boys hit years before the Beatles and both sang catchy pop tunes.
What did the Beatles pioneer? The first half of their career were simple and catchy pop tunes the teens loved. What did they do that Buddy Holly or Chuck Berry or Elvis didn't do?
Then the 2nd half of their run The Beatles took drugs and got experimental into the late 60's culture like every single other band at the time.
They wrote great songs, I love the band, but people go weird for them and treat them like Gods.
Someone like Hendrix should be far more revered for being a pioneer for doing what nobody had ever done and everyone has tried to copy since.
No, nor does their work promoting global Peace in a time where war was still popular.
I'm saying that there was more than the music.
And wasn't Mozart popular also?
Not even close.
Sounds like every hit single The Beatles ever had their first few years:
The difference is the Beatles quickly outgrew their rock'n'roll and R&B influences, the Stones never really did.
The difference is the Beatles quickly outgrew their rock'n'roll and R&B influences, the Stones never really did.
Good songs are good songs. If you don't like electric blues as much as LSD pop music ok fine. Hendrix played the blues and so did Zeppelin. They are still great.
Ok, sure.
This works both ways too, as I don't get Kendrick Lamar or ... Lorde..
People make the mistake constantly of comparing pioneers to what came after, which without them would have been... Nothing.
The difference is the Beatles quickly outgrew their rock'n'roll and R&B influences, the Stones never really did.
I am supposed to know Kendrick Lamar.
You should know Louis Armstrong first and go from there. Otherwise it might not make any sense.
Maybe what most people believe is true is sometimes wrong. Maybe what is popular isn't always the best. Maybe Kendrick Lamar sounds like he's constipated when he raps, and maybe the Beatles are a great band but overrated.
Maybe the zeitgiest is full of crap sometimes.
I read an article arguing that the strange, discordant guitar solo in "Sympathy For The Devil", the first track of the Beggar's Banquet album, was the first time in their careers that the Stones had created something truly unique that no other band could have created. While I get the "bar band" comparison, and it really fits for some of their stuff (especially "Honkey Tonk Women"...) I think that they did move on and make their own path in the music business. Some of the new things that they did were not good, and some of the good things that they did were not new, but I don't think their body of work can be as neatly summarized as you suggest.
-k
Maybe there is no 'right' in these things.
Talking Heads' "Remain in Light" is studied as a paradigm changer in popular music, released in October 1980. At the top of the charts then was Barbra Streisand's "Women in Love" - forgotten. If you can articulate an objective way to identify that the zeitgeist was "wrong" I'd be interested.
Yes I agree. Allz I'm saying is that what's popular doesn't mean "best". This goes for music as well as political and social beliefs. Music at least is 100% subjective and not necessarily harmful.
Of course, but at a certain point popular means something... and superstardom plus critical acclaim plus cultural impact... well it's undeniable that if 20th century popular music is discussed then The Beatles will come up.
No one says they weren’t cultural icons and musical influencers. They were almost as influential to modern rock ‘n’ roll music as Robert Johnson.
Of course, but at a certain point popular means something... and superstardom plus critical acclaim plus cultural impact... well it's undeniable that if 20th century popular music is discussed then The Beatles will come up.
Everybody likes the Beatles. Sure that means something, they write good tunes for the whole family. There's something to be said about good pop music. Everybody went out and bought Thriller.
For sure... and since we're still in the domain of music - Thriller sold more than any other record... but its influence was marginal: it didn't change music. It was, however, innovative: a mix of R&B, Motown and soft-rock that included musicians from all popular mainstream genres, like members of Toto and Van Halen.
I always liked metal and rock, some pop. Now I'm a granny and am musically eclectic. Blues, classic rock, alternative rock, metal, country, sommme rap (not many) and even soprano opera. Now my sons love all these too.
What specifically, Gina?music from the 70's to latest, rock, metal, blues ... too many artists to list but am sure a sort A-Z list
Maybe you'd like the Rappin' Granny. I love her.don't think I've ever heard of her - not even my one son who's into rap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6FfhcXS4MQ
music from the 70's to latest, rock, metal, blues ... too many artists to list but am sure a sort A-Z list
Medieval Dr Dre
Yeah - so give 5 or 10 from the top of your mind ?I grew up on Gordon Lightfoot, Jim Croce, Elton John, and found the radio then fell in love with Queen. Couldn't care less that he was gay. Loved his voice, Rod Steward, Boston, Black Sabbath, The Cars, Metallica, InFlames, Jeff Healey .... shh! even some opera, soprano singers ... Emma Shapplin, Monserrat Caballe (RIP), Simone Kermes, Sarah Brightman ... guess I'm just musically eclectic?
James Taylor ?
New York Dolls ?
Judee Sill ?
Nina Hagen ?
Coco Taylor ?
The Rolling Stones even ?
The Hu, Wolf Totem - Mongolian Rock
There are certain key ingredients necessary for a track to be considered yacht rock. For starters, it helps (though is not necessary) to have album art or lyrics that specifically reference boating, as with Christopher Cross's landmark 1980 hit “Sailing.” The music itself is usually slickly produced with clean vocals and a focus on melody over beat. But above all else, the sound has to be smooth. That’s what sets yacht rock apart from "nyacht" rock.
Yacht rock’s complex musicianship can be attributed, in part, to the session players on each track. Musicians like percussionist Steve Gadd, guitarist and Toto founding member Steve Lukather, and Toto drummer Jeff Porcaro don’t have much in the way of name recognition among casual soft rock listeners, but they’re the nails that hold the boat together. Steely Dan, “the primordial ooze from which yacht rock emerged,” according to Ryznar, famously cycled through dozens of session musicians while recording their 1980 seminal yacht rock album Gaucho.
What was yacht rock? It's a soft rock musical style, sometimes called the California sound, exemplified by smoothness and melody — these weren't exactly bangers, but that doesn't mean they were bad. Yacht rock could be very musically complex, incorporating elements of jazz into their compositions. The songs were usually introspective and did not engage with politics or current events at all — they were frictionless. Imagine a wealthy white man sailing on his yacht in 1980, and the music he's listening to in your imagination is what we're talking about..
Michael Hardner and Eyeball off Salt Spring Island, circa 1973
99% sure Justin Bieber has a drug addiction problem. He looks like a crack addict these days. Just canceled a tour due to "exhaustion" and other health issues.
Maybe he has HIV too or something. But probably just drugs.
99% sure Justin Bieber has a drug addiction problem. He looks like a crack addict these days. Just canceled a tour due to "exhaustion" and other health issues.I’m pretty sure it’s from the covid vaccine. It’s why his face was partially paralyzed.
Maybe he has HIV too or something. But probably just drugs.
I’m pretty sure it’s from the covid vaccine. It’s why his face was partially paralyzed.
He has Ramsay Hunt Syndrome which is a viral infection, you retard.Which can be an adverse condition caused by the vaccine. It’s actually difficult to determine what caused it, but it’s a bit of a coincidence that this rare condition occurred after his vaccination. Granted usually it happens within a few weeks if it’s vaccine related. But it can’t be ruled out.
Which can be an adverse condition caused by the vaccine. It’s actually difficult to determine what caused it, but it’s a bit of a coincidence that this rare condition occurred after his vaccination. Granted usually it happens within a few weeks if it’s vaccine related. But it can’t be ruled out.
There's no non-anecdotal evidence of any such link.Yes there is.
There are anti-vaxxer memes on Facebook that blame the vaccine for every celebrity ailment and death. It's unbelievable sometimes how stupid they are.I agree, it would be very dumb to blame every ailment.
One would have to be particularly stupid to feel you can make a confident assessment of how someone got a disease by reading Facebook memes. That's when you know so little, you can't even comprehend how little you know. My dog is at least smart enough to know his limitations.I agree. I would never make an assessment based on memes.
Yes there is.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34807403/
A total of 29 patients had HZ associated with COVID-19 infection.
You never actually read your own links do you?Yes, I never said that it wasn’t rare, but it does happen.
So not vaccination.
Yes, I never said that it wasn’t rare, but it does happen.
Bottom line: Risk for both shingles/Ramsay Hunt syndrome and for clots is more common after having Covid-19 than after the vaccine.”Are you really to stupid to understand that you are defeating your own argument?
https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/it-is-very-unlikely-justin-bieber-s-ramsay-hunt-syndrome-and-hailey-bieber-s-blood-clot-were-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines/?article_id=773072
Bottom line: Risk for both shingles/Ramsay Hunt syndrome and for clots is more common after having Covid-19 than after the vaccine.”
https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/it-is-very-unlikely-justin-bieber-s-ramsay-hunt-syndrome-and-hailey-bieber-s-blood-clot-were-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines/?article_id=773072
Which can be an adverse condition caused by the vaccine. It’s actually difficult to determine what caused it, but it’s a bit of a coincidence that this rare condition occurred after his vaccination.
We are a Yacht family. We play Yacht in the house. It's a smooth household.
We know a lot about it and have watched all the relevant YouTube videos and listened to relevant podcasts and we subscribe to the "Yacht Rock" deep tracks channel on Sirius XM, although we accept the problems with that service with regards to canon.
We also know about the scale and have been retweeted by JD Ryznar.
Please don't try to assail our purity in this regard.
Thank you.
I was reading that article and when I saw the parts about Toto and the session musicians and Steely Dan being "the primordial ooze from which yacht rock emerged", I just knew that it was about you.
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Michael, who is your favorite musical artist?
Oh wow... well I do like this guy but only because he writes deceptively super-simple songs that say very deep thingsThat’s a good description of Kurt Cobain too.
What do you like ? Anyone ?
That’s a good description of Kurt Cobain too.
1. The 80's was pop, because there were a lot of kids in the 80's (children of boomers). Teenagers of the 80's (Gen X ers) rebelled against this, created indie rock subgenres like grunge, thrash etc. When the 80's kids grew into teenagers they rebelled against 80's Bon Jovi and turned to the indie rock genres of the 80's, called it grunge, bought Doc Martins. Teenagers who listened to this music mixed it with 90's hip-hop, called it Limp Bizkit.1. Accurate. One of the few genres I can't listen to is Nu Metal... Bizkit, Korn et al
2. Younger 80's and 90's kids got soft because of their yuppie parents, got rid of the distortion, called it "indie rock". White kids went extinct, no more white suburban youth demo to sell to, and their parents stopped caring about creativity and only wanted things that looked and sounded like before they were born and called it Sheepdogs, Fleet Foxes, Ghost, and Greta Van Fleet.
1. Accurate. One of the few genres I can't listen to is Nu Metal... Bizkit, Korn et alI like Korn and Limp Bizkit, but only their older stuff. Especially Bizkit, everything after 3 dollar bill ya’ll and Significant Other isn’t very good.
2. Yeah but also people only buy pop now and even then it doesn't sell like it used to.
Kurt was very influenced by great bands that were almost unheralded... from the 1980s. I fancy myself a musicologist so I will call his influences "post punk" and I will wince a little bit but...Definitely. I think he was also influenced by the Pixies.
All of them listened to the Ramones, and probably some UK punk, who listened to Television, Patti Smith, the NY Dolls, the Modern Lovers, the MC5, and the original bands that were a little on the edge side of pop in the 1960s.
That's where it came from.
I will post some of the proto-grunge groups in the DNA but the film "School of Rock" with Jack Black actually talks about this.
That's weird. I went to see both Jonathan Richman and the Meat Puppets at the same small bar in Winnipeg around 1993 or so. I don't think we share a lot of musical taste though.
Very weird. I also saw the Melvins in the same bar. More recently thoigh (less than 10 years ago).
I only went to see old friends. I went to a million punk rock shows in my youth but only because that was what the crowd I hung out with was into. I was always more a jazz guy.
Melvins are really good, in that they are different and musically interesting. I can't stand listening to it though.
Grunge is also part punk, a blue collar anti-elitist movement, a rebellion from the excesses of 70's arena rock and 80's hair metal and pop etc.It is also exactly the style of music that Crazy Horse has always created.
If Elvis never listed southern gospel as an influence in a Teen Beat article, would that mean he wasn't influenced by it?
I guess not - but I spent about 20 minutes reading "best band" and "best song" lists that he himself wrote with his own handwriting, said in his own words... probably 50-100 groups, songs etc.
Kind of strange that he wouldn't mention Young but it's all speculation from either of us here. In terms of the "sound", he was 100% into "American ****" - that was what he listened to, and where he played. So, yes, he listed Meet the Beatles and Aerosmith in an interview here and there but he played with the meat puppets, listed every record by Melvins, a couple by Half Japanese and some group called The Wipers that I never heard of...
Anyway... as I say it's guesswork.
Can't talk about Nirvana influences without these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBbWVYuNLQ
If Elvis never listed southern gospel as an influence in a Teen Beat article, would that mean he wasn't influenced by it?
It is also exactly the style of music that Crazy Horse has always created.
If you can find anything from the band saying that Neil Young was a significant influence on their sound by Nirvana then i'll be convinced.
Parler was founded in 2018 and saw rapid growth surrounding the 2020 election. Billing itself as a loosely moderated free-speech haven, the app became popular with conservative politicians and media figures, peaking at an estimated 2.9 million daily users, according to the market research firm Apptopia. But since then, its fortunes have dimmed, with Parler’s estimated daily user count slipping to just 40,000, Apptopia told CNN on Monday. (Twitter, by comparison, has more than 237 million daily active users.)
“Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler,” Ye continued. “Also Hitler was born Christian.”
As the show headed to a commercial break, Jones told Ye he had a “Hitler fetish,” to which Ye responded, “I like Hitler.”
Neil Young is from the 60's folk-rock scene and then distorted it. He's not punk, he's not rebelling against the technical guitar solos of the 70's. He's rhythm guitar guy who sometimes plays not very technical solos with the skill of a 1960's rhythm guitar guy.Uh...what?
Uh...what?
Thanks for posting that version of Helpless. I hadn't seen it before and it's very nice.
But Neil is also one of the most distinctive electric guitar soloists alive.
Thanks for posting that version of Helpless. I hadn't seen it before and it's very nice.
But Neil is also one of the most distinctive electric guitar soloists alive. I don't think Rock James would have let him in the Mynah Birds if he wasn't.
Did I ever tell my wife's boss's story about how Bob Dylan came lurking around his house one day before a show in Winnipeg because the boss owns Neil's teenage-years home? Bob got the full tour.
Maybe I was thinking of Angus Young.Also utterly amazing.
I’m not a huge country music fan, but this song, Rich Men North of Richmond could be an anthem for the middle class, in the United States and Canada. Sh*t on constantly, whose lives are controlled and run by elites that “know what’s best for them”. Sound familiar?
https://youtu.be/sqSA-SY5Hro
I’m not a huge country music fan, but this song, Rich Men North of Richmond could be an anthem for the middle class, in the United States and Canada. Sh*t on constantly, whose lives are controlled and run by elites that “know what’s best for them”.
The conservative-leaning hit has drawn backlash for its anti-taxes sentiment and for invoking the stereotype of the “welfare queen”. (“Lord, we got folks in the street, ain’t got nothin’ to eat / And the obese milkin’ welfare,” he sings in the second verse. “Well, God, if you’re 5-foot-3 and you’re 300 pounds / Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of Fudge Rounds.”) The song is part classic folk-country working man’s anthem (“I’ve been sellin’ my soul, workin’ all day / Overtime hours for bullshit pay”) and part conservative mantra (“’cause your dollar ain’t ****, and it’s taxed to no end”), and part grievance (“young men are putting themselves six feet in the ground / ’cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin’ them down”). It also dabbles in conspiracy (“I wish politicians would look out for miners / And not just minors on an island somewhere,” he sings, a reference to many conspiracy theories surrounding the crimes and death of Jeffery Epstein).
oddly... this review (in the Guardian) misses your mark!
Now do Notorious B.I.G.'s "Gimme the Loot".
I see this as MAGAs slow movement to Marxism as they start to realize their problems are caused by the ruling class...
I see this as MAGAs slow movement to Marxism as they start to realize their problems are caused by the ruling class...Why is complaining about government over reach, etc akin to Marxism? Why is this guy MAGA? Do you just consider everything you don't like to be MAGA? Do you stereotype everyone based on skin colour and the way they talk? Or is just with his kind of people?
Is there a single thing you do, think or consume that isn’t dictated to you by conservative media?Says the person that follows and regurgitates every sh*tlib/lefty policy, talking point, etc, every single day. Look in the mirror dipsh*t.
I see this as MAGAs slow movement to Marxism as they start to realize their problems are caused by the ruling class...
Says the person that follows and regurgitates every sh*tlib/lefty policy, talking point, etc, every single day. Look in the mirror dipsh*t.
Why is complaining about government over reach, etc akin to Marxism? Why is this guy MAGA? Do you just consider everything you don't like to be MAGA? Do you stereotype everyone based on skin colour and the way they talk? Or is just with his kind of people?
Oh you sweet summer child. I think you'll fund the MAGAs don't have the same sense of what constitutes the ruling class as you. The MAGA idea of the ruling class includes pink-haired baristas making $8 an hour, elementary school teachers, Democrat politicians and, as per this terrible song by this leprechaun hillbilly, people on welfare. And they're fine with big corporations making obscene profits off the backs of labour as long as those corporations aren't "woke."'
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Complete nonsense. If that was the case, the song wouldn't be tiled Rich Men North or Richmond. It's truly unbelievable how dense you can be sometimes.
This was the other song that completely triggered libtards.
https://youtu.be/b1_RKu-ESCY
Holy **** are you actually too stupid to understand that that's a reference to Washington DC?Yes, that's what the reference is, not a pink haired barista.
Yes, that's what the reference is, not a pink haired barista.
2. The second verse attacking welfare recipients is clearly targeted at the "undeserving poor" MAGAts despise.Not true. He actually references people on the street that are actually starving. He's referring to the obese "poor".
Not true. He actually references people on the street that are actually starving. He's referring to the obese "poor".
Why is complaining about government over reach, etc akin to Marxism? Why is this guy MAGA? Do you just consider everything you don't like to be MAGA? Do you stereotype everyone based on skin colour and the way they talk? Or is just with his kind of people?
Oh you sweet summer child. I think you'll fund the MAGAs don't have the same sense of what constitutes the ruling class as you. The MAGA idea of the ruling class includes pink-haired baristas making $8 an hour, elementary school teachers, Democrat politicians and, as per this terrible song by this leprechaun hillbilly, people on welfare. And they're fine with big corporations making obscene profits off the backs of labour as long as those corporations aren't "woke."
Holy **** are you actually too stupid to understand that that's a reference to Washington DC?
I said it's a step...
Conservatives have always made token gestures towards class consciousness, but it's never in good faith.
Yes, but you're referring to politicians here not the lumpen proletariat.9
Rich Men North of Richmond hits #1 on Billboard’s top 100.
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See above re: "the undeserving poor".
It doesn't make this a token gesture, it makes it an immature exploration of the causes of poverty... a step towards the discovery that Newt Gingerich may not be your friend.
Blaming poor people on welfare?
That's not the whole point of the piece - it's about recognizing the plight of working people. The search for causes will include some missteps...Exactly right MH. Personally I think the song would be better if that line was changed or left out because it’s kind of irrelevant to the overall issue the song is attempting to address.
I love the smell of astroturf.Yes, everything you don’t like is fake. Lol, you’re a petulant child.
That's not the whole point of the piece - it's about recognizing the plight of working people. The search for causes will include some missteps...
Blaming poor people on welfare?He’s not blaming people for being on welfare. He’s pointing out the obvious problems of the system when there are obese people receiving food stamps. You generally don’t see very fat poor people in non western countries. It’s really a phenomenon of the west.
Yes, everything you don’t like is fake. Lol, you’re a petulant child.
He’s not blaming people for being on welfare. He’s pointing out the obvious problems of the system when there are obese people receiving food stamps. You generally don’t see very fat poor people in non western countries. It’s really a phenomenon of the west.
Did you know Paul Stanley was born with just one ear?
The plight of working people has been the subject of discussion and cultural discourse for hundreds of years. The main reason this ginger dude's song is going viral isn't because it's saying anything new but because of social media marketing (https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-never-seen-guy-blow-fast-oliver-anthony-industry-plant-astroturf-claim-goes-viral-amid-rich-men-north-richmond-s-success). I think you really want this to be organic and authentic but nothing is anymore.You mean things get more popular more quickly because more people can see it via social media? Wow, what a concept! Thanks for recognizing reality circa 2010.
The plight of working people has been the subject of discussion and cultural discourse for hundreds of years. The main reason this ginger dude's song is going viral isn't because it's saying anything new but because of social media marketing (https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-never-seen-guy-blow-fast-oliver-anthony-industry-plant-astroturf-claim-goes-viral-amid-rich-men-north-richmond-s-success). I think you really want this to be organic and authentic but nothing is anymore.
You mean things get more popular more quickly because more people can see it via social media? Wow, what a concept! Thanks for recognizing reality circa 2010.
Well true enough.
But things don't just "go" viral unless there's something in there that appeals to people.
The plight of working people has been the subject of discourse but not so much lately and not in ways that ask why...
Did you know Paul Stanley was born with just one ear?
LOL c'mon man.
1. Video gets commissioned by a right-wing social media marketer
2. He pushes it out to the vast and well-connected network of right-wing social media accounts who then share it virtually simultaneously.
3. Their idiot followers then like and share it because they will do that with whatever slop those accounts serve up (look at Shady as an archetypal example of this kind of hog).
4. Profit!
yeah but ... I don't know ... Bilboard charts - can they really be 'gamed' ?
They can set up the bands to succeed but Col. Tom Parker didn't "make" elvis...
Well true enough.Apparently only people like Black Dog are allowed to talk about the plight of working people. While I agree that in the past, it was more of a left wing issue, but they’ve abandoned the working class years ago, in favour of the upper class elites, and it’s illustrated in their policies. Democrats used to have a lock on the working class, but not anymore. People like Black Dog haven’t recognized the shift and get offended when somebody not like him “steals” his issue.
But things don't just "go" viral unless there's something in there that appeals to people.
The plight of working people has been the subject of discourse but not so much lately and not in ways that ask why...
Billboard charts include digital streaming numbers which can be easily juiced.Sounds like a conspiracy theory. 😂😂😂
Apparently only people like Black Dog are allowed to talk about the plight of working people. While I agree that in the past, it was more of a left wing issue, but they’ve abandoned the working class years ago, in favour of the upper class elites, and it’s illustrated in their policies. Democrats used to have a lock on the working class, but not anymore. People like Black Dog haven’t recognized the shift and get offended when somebody not like him “steals” his issue.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory. 😂😂😂
This is just cope from a guy who supports a party that has no interest in the material concerns of the middle or working classes and never has.Now you have to resort to lying in order to cope. Sad. Keep supporting policies like unlimited immigration that suppress wages and skyrocket housing costs and pretend you care about working people. You care about them the same way an abusive husband cares for his wife.
This dumb mfer has never heard of payola lol.More conspiracy. I bet Putin’s behind it too! 😂😂😂
Now you have to resort to lying in order to cope. Sad. Keep supporting policies like unlimited immigration that suppress wages and skyrocket housing costs and pretend you care about working people. You care about them the same way an abusive husband cares for his wife.
More conspiracy. I bet Putin’s behind it too! 😂😂😂
You're a neoliberal shill cosplaying as a defender of the working class while supporting deregulation, corporate tax cuts and culture war bullshit. We all know what you're about no matter how much you virtue signal as a populist.You’re a neoliberal sh*tlib that supports policies that have destroyed working people’s ability to buy/rent a home, put food on the table etc. You support working people the way abusive husbands support their wives. Now why don’t you get buddy devising of another carbon tax you can throw on top of the 3 that exist you dipsh*t.
You’re a neoliberal sh*tlib that supports policies that have destroyed working people’s ability to buy/rent a home, put food on the table etc. You support working people the way abusive husbands support their wives. Now why don’t you get buddy devising of another carbon tax you can throw on top of the 3 that exist you dipsh*t.
(https://media.gettyimages.com/id/569189305/photo/a-pull-cord-is-used-to-activate-the-voice-box-of-a-chatty-cathy-doll.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=rQSdi756VfhT01t9JNUFqHgakYP13y3C97ZgGcmB0NQ=)I know, I wouldn’t be able to defend those sh*tty anti working people policies either. Better to post picture and move on.
I know, I wouldn’t be able to defend those sh*tty anti working people policies either. Better to post picture and move on.
So I heard that they used the "Rich Men North Of Richmond" song at the Republican debate, and the singer guy was like "those guys are the exact **** I was singing about."Exactly. He’s actually said both parties are the problem.
-k
No, I don't think he did.😂😂😂
Mind now BLOWN
https://youtu.be/PwGgDmHuGpA?si=hMCYyPL-URflNTIX
Best band of the last 10 years. Creative geniuses. Best music videos of all-time, many they make themselves. Fight me on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioqgrYorhkU
Conservatives have always made token gestures towards class consciousness, but it's never in good faith.