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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2017, 04:09:41 pm »
Soooo about that 'increase' in defense spending.... so much for that, right? I'm fairly sure, in fact, that were it not for Trump there'd have been a big decrease in spending. Just as I'm sure their review will call for a smaller, cheaper military.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2017, 05:29:29 pm »
There's been no decrease, and a very small increase in operational spending - but anything else is supposed to wait for the review - we'll see.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2017, 07:17:36 pm »
Meanwhile, on a somewhat related note, the CCG is possibly going to get some AOPS ships of its own:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/arctic-ships-icebreakers-aops-coast-guard-1.4044679

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2017, 07:46:05 pm »
There's been no decrease, and a very small increase in operational spending - but anything else is supposed to wait for the review - we'll see.
They didn't postpone all capital spending 'until after the review'. They postponed it until the mid 2030s.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2017, 07:48:27 pm »
Meanwhile, on a somewhat related note, the CCG is possibly going to get some AOPS ships of its own:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/arctic-ships-icebreakers-aops-coast-guard-1.4044679

Would you care to speculate on why they would expect that it would take another five years before they can start building frigates when they basically bought the plans already? It's not like they're designing them rom scratch, and frankly, if they were designing them from scratch I'd still expect them to finish faster than five years.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2017, 09:01:02 pm »
They didn't postpone all capital spending 'until after the review'. They postponed it until the mid 2030s.

That spending was allocated to specific projects.  It works out to less than $1B over the next 6 years.  These are mostly projects that were to take place in the 2020s, and now now.  This isn't the first reallocation, and this isn't the first government to do it.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2017, 02:07:40 pm »
That spending was allocated to specific projects.  It works out to less than $1B over the next 6 years.  These are mostly projects that were to take place in the 2020s, and now now.  This isn't the first reallocation, and this isn't the first government to do it.

Do you recall me saying a lot of flattering things about the Tories and their defense policies?
There should, at a rock solid basic minimum, be enough armored vehicles to transport our troops around. They shouldn't need to rob other battalions and regiments whenever someone goes overseas. They should have enough trucks they don't have to rent buses. They should not be using Korean war vintage artillery, for Gods sakes.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2017, 03:23:18 pm »
Do you recall me saying a lot of flattering things about the Tories and their defense policies?
There should, at a rock solid basic minimum, be enough armored vehicles to transport our troops around. They shouldn't need to rob other battalions and regiments whenever someone goes overseas. They should have enough trucks they don't have to rent buses. They should not be using Korean war vintage artillery, for Gods sakes.

Vehicles that sit are useless, as they go to hell right away.  We have new artillery.  The old ones are just for practice and avalanche duties.

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Re: Canada to Increase Defence Spending
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2017, 04:59:27 pm »
Vehicles that sit are useless, as they go to hell right away.  We have new artillery.  The old ones are just for practice and avalanche duties.

You can't train with buses.