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Offline kimmy

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #165 on: February 20, 2017, 09:13:05 am »
Quote from: Blueblood on February 19, 2017, 03:53:05 pm
I have a secret:

He's trolling his opponents.  Shhh!!!

This isn't "trolling", this is propaganda. Pure and simple. They're making up lies to support this agenda of security and anti-Muslim prejudice. "The Bowling Green massacre!"  "The highest murder rate in 47 years!" "The incident in Sweden yesterday!"

This isn't "trolling", this is deliberate deceit.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #166 on: February 20, 2017, 09:25:49 am »
I think what is important is the media doesn't let Trump make it about them, meaning stop complaining about being called fake news because they won't get a lot of sympathy.  Ignore it and just keep doing their job of reporting the real verifiable facts and calling Trump on his BS. This can't keep up forever, eventually he will be buried under his own pile of dung.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2017, 09:48:35 am »
Quote from: Blueblood on February 19, 2017, 11:40:52 pm
His supporters are seeing things are getting done in spite of the left freaking out over a Sweden comment.

If his supporters looked for real results, they would be sadly disappointed. Being told he is getting things done from the liar in chief is not evidence of any accomplishment, it is only evidence of the gullibility of his supporters - and that is not news.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2017, 09:50:12 am »
Quote from: kimmy on February 20, 2017, 09:13:05 am
This isn't "trolling", this is propaganda. Pure and simple. They're making up lies to support this agenda of security and anti-Muslim prejudice. "The Bowling Green massacre!"  "The highest murder rate in 47 years!" "The incident in Sweden yesterday!"

This isn't "trolling", this is deliberate deceit.

 -k

Which is why over 50% don't believe what trump says.  He's still trolling by trying to get a reaction out of the press to show his supporters the media bias.

This isn't the first time he's trolled the press with nonsense.  This is the guy who used to call the press in the 1980s with a fake name to make up stories about him to get his name out.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2017, 09:52:23 am »
Quote from: ?Impact on February 20, 2017, 09:48:35 am
If his supporters looked for real results, they would be sadly disappointed. Being told he is getting things done from the liar in chief is not evidence of any accomplishment, it is only evidence of the gullibility of his supporters - and that is not news.

His supporters were looking for something quantifiable.  There's a reason there were those photo ops with him signing the executive orders which shows action being taken.  Typically stuff like that takes time to yield true results.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #170 on: February 20, 2017, 09:52:32 am »
Quote from: Blueblood on February 19, 2017, 09:23:38 pm
Except that the American people believe trump more than the media. 

incorrect. SOME Americans believe Trump more than the media. Most likely those with psychological issues, learning problems, no education and low IQs.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #171 on: February 20, 2017, 09:56:25 am »
Quote from: Blueblood on February 20, 2017, 09:50:12 am
This is the guy who used to call the press in the 1980s with a fake name to make up stories about him to get his name out.

Kind of reminds me of Dave from Scarborough. The similarities between the two buffoons are uncanny.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #172 on: February 20, 2017, 09:58:12 am »
Quote from: SirJohn on February 20, 2017, 09:52:32 am
incorrect. SOME Americans believe Trump more than the media. Most likely those with psychological issues, learning problems, no education and low IQs.

https://www.google.ca/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/320205-fox-poll-voters-split-on-whether-to-trust-trump-or-media%3Famp?client=safari

And

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-09/trump-administration-more-trusted-than-the-media-poll-finds%3Fcontext%3Damp?client=safari

This tells me Americans are typically skeptical about things being told to them and think critically
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2017, 10:08:31 am »
Quote from: Blueblood on February 20, 2017, 09:58:12 am

This tells me Americans are typically skeptical about things being told to them and think critically

Funny. What this tells me is a lot of Americans are incapable of thinking critically.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #174 on: February 20, 2017, 10:15:59 am »
Quote from: SirJohn on February 20, 2017, 10:08:31 am
Funny. What this tells me is a lot of Americans are incapable of thinking critically.

Neither of them have over 50% believability.  If they didn't think critical, one would have sky high believeable ratings
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #175 on: February 20, 2017, 10:51:52 am »
Quote from: Blueblood on February 20, 2017, 09:58:12 am
https://www.google.ca/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/320205-fox-poll-voters-split-on-whether-to-trust-trump-or-media%3Famp?client=safari

And

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-09/trump-administration-more-trusted-than-the-media-poll-finds%3Fcontext%3Damp?client=safari

This tells me Americans are typically skeptical about things being told to them and think critically

Believing Trump's nonsense and BS is critical thinking? Please.

The media"s problem is "I was told" or "I've heard" or "People say" doesn't cut it for mainstream media credibility, nor should it, but coming from Trump, his supporters lap it up as gospel.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #176 on: February 20, 2017, 11:21:10 am »
Trump is the President now. What's the problem with demanding the same standard of truthfulness from a president and his administration, as from the media? That would be critical thinking.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #177 on: February 20, 2017, 11:58:26 am »
Quote from: kimmy on February 20, 2017, 09:13:05 am

This isn't "trolling", this is deliberate deceit.

Never ascribe conspiracy to what you can explain through ignorance. Trump saw a story on FOX news about huge crime rates among migrants to Sweden from the Middle East and North Africa. That simply reinforced in his head how horrible it is to get overrun by migrants from the Middle East and North Africa, and he blurted that out.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #178 on: February 20, 2017, 11:58:57 am »
Quote from: wilber on February 20, 2017, 11:21:10 am
Trump is the President now. What's the problem with demanding the same standard of truthfulness from a president and his administration, as from the media? That would be critical thinking.

The people who put him in office clearly didn't care about his dishonesty, and they don't care about it now either.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #179 on: February 20, 2017, 11:59:52 am »
Quote from: wilber on February 20, 2017, 10:51:52 am
Believing Trump's nonsense and BS is critical thinking? Please.

The media"s problem is "I was told" or "I've heard" or "People say" doesn't cut it for mainstream media credibility, nor should it, but coming from Trump, his supporters lap it up as gospel.
These are also convenient weasel words so he can claim that he wasn't lying....he was just misinformed. Except he's not misinformed. He continues to spread bullshit even after he's been corrected.
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