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Offline segnosaur

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« Reply #315 on: April 20, 2017, 11:19:18 am »
On that subject, you can't get Trump supporters at the other place to argue with you either. They won't even acknowledge the point.   "yeah well benghazi or something."
Its a problem when discussing American politics right now...

If everyone agrees, there's not much to discuss and things get boring. But Trump is so indefensible that nobody can really build any arguments in support of him without resorting to such petty tactics.

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Trump decides to go all interventionist in the middle east after campaigning against exactly that?
Well, that's not exactly fair to trump.. after all, he was actually all for bombing Libya and invading Iraq at one point.

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« Reply #316 on: April 20, 2017, 04:33:12 pm »
So Trumps" AG doesn't seem to think Hawaiians are valid Americans, including their judges. Maybe that's why even after Obama proved he was born there Trump still saw him as unqualified to be POTUS. Not hard to see how Jeff Sessions became part of the Trump "team".

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/20/jeff-sessions-doesnt-think-a-judge-in-hawaii-a-k-a-an-island-in-the-pacific-should-overrule-trump/?utm_term=.c4cdd0dda98c

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« Reply #317 on: April 20, 2017, 08:53:07 pm »
Posted this on the dark side as well.  Does anyone think Team Trump or the RNC knew or cared about this?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/19/venezuela-donation-donald-trump-inauguration
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« Reply #318 on: April 20, 2017, 11:49:39 pm »
So Donald Trump got "hired", and now Bill O'Reilly got fired and yet they both seem to be equally guilty of sexual assault. How do Trump supporters square that circle I wonder?

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« Reply #319 on: April 26, 2017, 02:35:04 pm »
So Trump has now laid out his new tax plan where he has readjusted tax rates. So now, for instance a fire fighter who is married will pay 24%, and Trump will pay 15%. His corporate rate reduction will amount to $4 trillion. He better hope against hope that Mexico changes their mind about paying for that wall.

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« Reply #320 on: April 26, 2017, 03:29:58 pm »
Crank up the presses, Papa needs another 4 trillion.
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« Reply #321 on: April 26, 2017, 04:44:02 pm »
He also wants to remove estate tax so the kids will get Trump Towers tax free. "Thanks daddy"

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« Reply #322 on: April 27, 2017, 10:02:09 am »
He also wants to remove estate tax so the kids will get Trump Towers tax free. "Thanks daddy"
But how could Trump have known that? After all, he put all his holdings in a blind trust!

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-blind-trust-foreign-business-deals-500398.html

Offline wilber

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« Reply #323 on: April 27, 2017, 12:10:12 pm »
But how could Trump have known that? After all, he put all his holdings in a blind trust!

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-blind-trust-foreign-business-deals-500398.html

That was about keeping everyone else blind.
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« Reply #324 on: April 27, 2017, 02:31:08 pm »
Seems like Trudeau has more pull than people give him credit for:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-trudeau-nafta-renegotiation-1.4088545

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« Reply #325 on: April 28, 2017, 12:43:24 am »
Do you really think Trudeau could change Trump's mind on anything? 

I think Trump was just posturing with the whole ripping up NAFTA rhetoric.  He's a business man, he was starting at his end game and negotiating down.  Threaten to rip it all up, slap on a tariff and once we see where things could be headed, he has all the leverage for a favourable negotiation.

Now he looks like he threw us a bone when he played us like a chump. 

I don't buy it for a sec that Trudeau would change Trump's mind if Trump was actually serious about pulling out of NAFTA.

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« Reply #326 on: April 28, 2017, 08:32:19 am »
That's just it - Trump isn't serious about anything.  He's simply most greatly influenced by the latest/most popular person to talk to him.

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« Reply #327 on: April 28, 2017, 11:24:41 am »
Do you really think Trudeau could change Trump's mind on anything? 

I think Trump was just posturing with the whole ripping up NAFTA rhetoric.  He's a business man, he was starting at his end game and negotiating down.  Threaten to rip it all up, slap on a tariff and once we see where things could be headed, he has all the leverage for a favourable negotiation.

Now he looks like he threw us a bone when he played us like a chump. 

I don't buy it for a sec that Trudeau would change Trump's mind if Trump was actually serious about pulling out of NAFTA.

I think you give Trump too much credit. He just postures for his base. Trudeau was probably partly responsible and I think he is doing the right thing by sticking to the facts and not descending to Trump's level. Trump also probably had a talk from the thirty odd state governors who's states depend on Canadian trade. This isn't a real estate deal or stiffing your creditors and contractors.
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« Reply #328 on: April 28, 2017, 04:37:58 pm »
Wilber, aren't you contradicting yourself if you think Trump was posturing for his base AND you think Trudeau influenced him? 

Do you or do you not believe that Trump had no intention of ripping up NAFTA?  If you think he was just posturing for his base, that means he had no intention.

Hence, Trudeau made no difference.

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« Reply #329 on: April 28, 2017, 07:17:13 pm »
Wilber, aren't you contradicting yourself if you think Trump was posturing for his base AND you think Trudeau influenced him? 

Do you or do you not believe that Trump had no intention of ripping up NAFTA?  If you think he was just posturing for his base, that means he had no intention.

Hence, Trudeau made no difference.

I believe Trump has said a lot of things to his base that he intended to do but can't. Why? He is always in campaign mode because he doesn't know what he is doing. He has to be told so after he has shot is mouth off and then make out like it was his idea all the time. It works great with his base but falls apart under serious scrutiny.

Just look at his travel ban and sanctuary city decrees. All it took to get them both shot down was to show the court his own tweets.

The reason most of the world is afraid of Trump is because it believes he is incompetent. Making him POTUS is like handing a six year old a running chainsaw.
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