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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 09:55:44 am »
It's gonna be a long, hopefully less than 4 years.  I thought this guy was supposed to be less interested in playing world policeman, except in all of the same places they always have and now maybe in Mexico.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 01:14:37 pm »
Today, Donald Trump decided that he can't wait 90 days to start NAFTA negotiations, as required by US law.  He can't even wait, in fact, for the US Trade Representative to be confirmed:

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"I would like to speed it up if possible. You're the folks who can do it," Trump said during a meeting in the White House with a bipartisan group of politicians from the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-nafta-negotiations-1.3963544

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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 01:42:06 pm »
Today, Donald Trump decided that he can't wait 90 days to start NAFTA negotiations, as required by US law.  He can't even wait, in fact, for the US Trade Representative to be confirmed:

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"I would like to speed it up if possible. You're the folks who can do it," Trump said during a meeting in the White House with a bipartisan group of politicians from the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-nafta-negotiations-1.3963544

Thank god I got rid of the cows years ago.  This is my issue with trump.  As much as I like his stance on pipelines, taxes, and saving money, I am not a fan of excessive micromanaging of an economy.  It has been proven that free trade makes societies richer and I'm happier that Mexico is richer as it's more customers with money for products.  What the American people fail to realize is that being anti trade is a bandaid solution as they are going to handcuff their economy by cutting out a lot of customers. 

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 01:44:00 pm »
Today, Donald Trump decided that he can't wait 90 days to start NAFTA negotiations, as required by US law.  He can't even wait, in fact, for the US Trade Representative to be confirmed:

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"I would like to speed it up if possible. You're the folks who can do it," Trump said during a meeting in the White House with a bipartisan group of politicians from the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-nafta-negotiations-1.3963544

Thank god I got rid of the cows years ago.  This is my issue with trump.  As much as I like his stance on pipelines, taxes, and saving money, I am not a fan of excessive micromanaging of an economy.  It has been proven that free trade makes societies richer and I'm happier that Mexico is richer as it's more customers with money for products.  What the American people fail to realize is that being anti trade is a bandaid solution as they are going to handcuff their economy by cutting out a lot of customers.

I was actually listening to the radio and the talk was about how much power Mexico actually has in these negotiations.  They can decided to make it so the capital and jobs can't just leave, just as easy as Trump can decide he wants them back.  They also have a lot of power over the fresh food supply moving north.

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2017, 07:10:35 pm »
Whether or not its particularly significant I am not sure, but there are an awful lot of memes making fun of Trump.   Haven't seen any other political figures so mocked on social media.   
“Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear.”
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2017, 07:33:38 pm »
Whether or not its particularly significant I am not sure, but there are an awful lot of memes making fun of Trump.   Haven't seen any other political figures so mocked on social media.

GW bush presidency ended as social media became mainstream or he would have been hammered more

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2017, 07:46:34 pm »
There are a lot of Conservatives on my Facebook.  Trudeau gets it about as much as Trump on my feed.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2017, 08:09:57 pm »
BTW, when Trump was talking to the Prime Minister of Australia, he spent much of his time bragging about his electoral college margin....

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2017, 10:18:33 pm »
I give the Australian PM credit for his tact and diplomacy in answering questions about the call then.

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2017, 10:34:30 pm »
I give the Australian PM credit for his tact and diplomacy in answering questions about the call then.

The Australian PM has a bit more leverage than other countries in dealing with the USA as they have a very strategic location and two very large customers for their products a short boy ride away.  So turnbull can get away with it.

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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2017, 05:16:51 am »
I'm not sure what you mean "get away with it." What I meant was that he showed a lot of restraint in talking about the situation. He could have gone to the media and just trashed Trump, but he chose his words carefully. He gave Trump a lot more respect than he probably deserved after that phone call.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2017, 07:37:55 am »
Don't forget, there are US troops in Darwin - he's probably sacred Trump will threaten to invade him next.

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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2017, 11:51:41 am »
I'm not sure what you mean "get away with it." What I meant was that he showed a lot of restraint in talking about the situation. He could have gone to the media and just trashed Trump, but he chose his words carefully. He gave Trump a lot more respect than he probably deserved after that phone call.

Getting away with getting under trump's skin to cause trump to have a blow.  Trump has a lot of political capital right now.

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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2017, 12:23:32 pm »
Trump can't take a bit of criticism or contrary opinion without going off the rails. In less than two weeks since he jumped on his bully pulpit, he has managed to get two allies to give him the finger, together with a botched raid in Yemen that the former administration wouldn't approve and appointed an ambassador to the EU who has publicly declared he would like to see the EU to disappear. How long until Vlad is his only "friend" left. Trump may have political capital at home but he seems intent on alienating all those countries which have supported the US for decades.

Australia is the biggest western power in the region. It's military while not large compared to China and a few other countries in the region, is well equipped, capable and in the process of being made even more capable. Australia has just signed a defence agreement with Japan. Next to the US, Australia is the biggest contributor to the fight against ISIL and if the US goes head to head with China in the South China Sea, it will need Australia's support bigly.

Dumb ass Trump jeopardizes all that, for what?
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2017, 01:38:23 pm »
Well so far we have Kellyanne Conway with her "alternative facts", Trumps press secretary and some of his cabinet spouting outright lies, bans on immigration, and an Attorney General fired for for pointing out the illegality of an Exec. Order. What's next, 2+2 equals 5? Things look a little grim, unlesss of course you happen to own the copyright to 1984.
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