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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Short History of Partisan Journalism
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2017, 12:01:13 pm »
You're correct, Kimmy.  The Rebel, as much as it sets out to spread disharmony, does report the ugly truth about the lack of integration of these people.

My sister has been involved with the Syrian program and there was definitely a culture shock, and violence on the part of a male householder when he found himself in a liberal society incompatible with Islamic values.

And yet (in keeping with topic) all we get from the regular media are soothing, heart-warming stories about Syrian refugees waving Canadian flags, and Syrian kids enjoying their new school, and Syrian's going to Canada day, and learning at special cook school, etc. etc. I haven't seen one word in the regular media about any issues or problems with them. How many, one year on, are employed? I'm guessing a tiny fraction (based on reports of language/education levels). How many are unhappy here, as opposed to delighted? How many are having adaptation problems? Probably a lot. But we'll never hear that.

You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see how well our Syrian Muslim refugees are adapting here vs Syrian Christian refugees.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2017, 12:08:24 pm »
This **** aggravates me.  Because I hate Ezra Levant and I think he's a **** piece of crap, and yet his dog-**** website is the only so-called news source who did any journalism regarding sexual assaults on Fredericton adolescent schoolgirls by adult male Syrian refugees who had been put in their classrooms.
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You know what aggravates me as a Frederictonian? That one Syrian sexually assaults a student and the police fail to respond appropriately and it's a story because it builds upon the xenophobic narrative of barbaric animal Muslims raping and pillaging their way across Canada. Meanwhile, there is tons of evidence of sexual assaults in Fredericton and NB more generally not being handled appropriately and nobody says a word about them. It's only noticed (read: important) to a lot of people when it's a Syrian refugee involved and that's because it plays right into their xenophobic garbage.

Fredericton accepted more Syrian refugees per capita than any other city in the country. This is one single incident that people are pointing, ignoring the fact that these kinds of things are a very big problem in Fredericton in general. Yet we're supposed to hate on all the Syrian refugees because of this one incident, meanwhile nobody broadbrushes the white christian university students who are sexually assaulting women.

Nobody is okay with what happened with that Syrian refugee. But some people are stupid enough to think that it's indicative of the hundreds of Syrians who've settled here, when it absolutely is not. Not even close.

Offline SirJohn

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2017, 12:14:57 pm »
You know what aggravates me as a Frederictonian? That one Syrian sexually assaults a student and the police fail to respond appropriately and it's a story because it builds upon the xenophobic narrative of barbaric animal Muslims raping and pillaging their way across Canada.

Nice exaggeration.
You know, people on your side like to talk about **** culture, esp on campus. What does that involve? I mean, if it involves anything, it's a hyper masculine type culture which devalues women as anything but sex objects. What does that remind me of? It reminds me of the Muslim world.

Why would people not expect young men who grew up in such a culture and society, where everything is violently hyper macho, and women are, by force, required to be meek and heavily clothed and modest at all times not see western women as **** for the taking? If Muslim culture isn't **** culture I don't know what is.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2017, 12:18:23 pm »
YOU brought up **** culture on campus. I'm talking about the 21% of students surveyed who said they'd been sexually assaulted. Not **** culture. https://blogs.unb.ca/newsroom/2017/01/19/unb-researchers-release-findings-of-sexual-assault-climate-survey/

But why don't you continue to pretend you've got a clue.

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2017, 12:48:20 pm »
This side drift can continue, of course, but back to Journalism.

It seems there are two extremes we are arguing against, both of which seem to be happening:

1) Media papering over individual crimes by refugees, for some reason.  Positively, perhaps they feel that it feeds an anecdotal narrative which casts too much light on individual crimes.  Negatively, they don't trust the public and it ruins the feel-good agenda.  We don't need to assess motivations here, just whether people think this is happening.

2) The 'public' is not a public at all, but rather a mass of people some of whom are inherently racist and don't understand the legal system.  Negative media such as The Rebel will feed on them to make a place for themselves.

Problems are solved when leaders engage with a 'public', which doesn't exist here.  The 680 News comments section on facebook responds to an article about a terrorist suspect appealing his sentence by asking "why is this allowed" or saying, basically, we should just lock him away without due process.

True leadership should be able to speak to engaged publics within the larger mass of the publication and responsibly ask questions, and - yes - inform their publics.  It's up to those of us who ARE informed and who have opinions to speak up in every forum possible to call out the reality of the situation.


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Re: Short History of Partisan Journalism
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2017, 12:48:37 pm »
YOU brought up **** culture on campus. I'm talking about the 21% of students surveyed who said they'd been sexually assaulted. Not **** culture. https://blogs.unb.ca/newsroom/2017/01/19/unb-researchers-release-findings-of-sexual-assault-climate-survey/

But why don't you continue to pretend you've got a clue.

First, terms tend to be very, very broad in these types of surveys. If some guy had ever accosted you and said something sexually rude, that counts in these types of surveys. As does if you ever had sex with your boyfriend even though you really didn't want to but consented anyway.

Second oh profoundly cluefull one, this study shows the number of students who reported the numbers of those who had some kind of unwanted sexual activity before coming to university was much GREATER than those at university.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2017, 02:22:55 pm »
"These types of surveys"? You mean surveys done by one of the top sexual psychology scholars in the world? You think she made a poor survey, do you?

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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2017, 04:20:33 pm »
"These types of surveys"? You mean surveys done by one of the top sexual psychology scholars in the world? You think she made a poor survey, do you?

Surveys done by ideologically motivated social science academics (which is most of them).
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2017, 04:48:24 pm »
Riiight. Maybe we could have asked Rebel Media to make the survey as opposed to a world reknown academic who makes surveys and uses survey data for a living.

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Re: Short History of Partisan Journalism
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2017, 05:34:31 pm »
This **** aggravates me.  Because I hate Ezra Levant and I think he's a **** piece of crap, and yet his dog-**** website is the only so-called news source who did any journalism regarding sexual assaults on Fredericton adolescent schoolgirls by adult male Syrian refugees who had been put in their classrooms.

It would be easy to dismiss it as a hoax or fearmongering if the Rebel didn't have the FOIA documents to prove it. But they did. So it's not a hoax, and instead of asking why the Rebel are such a bunch of ****-heads we have to instead ask why real news outlets pretended nothing happened.

I've said it dozens of times, and will keep repeating it: if real news outlets are going to bury their heads in the sand and cede the field to the alt-right websites, it just undermines the trust in "real news" and feeds the narrative that the alt-right are pushing.  And that's **** pathetic.

Well it's this failure/bias of most of the MSM that makes The Rebel or even FOX News successful enough to exist.  They present stories and opinions that are silenced by most establishment journalism.  Journalists are mainly a group of people who are educated in liberally-slanted universities and live in urban/metropolitan areas.  Stories and opinions of a conservative interest or slant, or that would be of interest to blue-collar workers or rural/small town people, are silenced by most MSM outlets.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2017, 05:38:05 pm »
http://nationalpost.com/g00/news/canada/taxes-census-treaties-described-as-obligations-of-citizenship-in-new-guide/wcm/016bf5ad-58df-4924-82b4-78ea5168e768?i10c.referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fnationalpost.com%2F

You already have to be a permanent resident of Canada for years before you're even eligible to become a Canadian citizen.  What are permanent residents, refugee claimants, or people on work or study visas told?
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Re: Short History of Partisan Journalism
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2017, 05:38:29 pm »
   Journalists are mainly a group of people who are educated in liberally-slanted universities and live in urban/metropolitan areas.  Stories and opinions of a conservative interest or slant, or that would be of interest to blue-collar workers or rural/small town people, are silenced by most MSM outlets.

This reminds me of the rural purge, wherein CBS cancelled popular shows that weren't urban enough.